thanks much - I registered so that I can download it when available. I won't ditch Vegas, but need another NLE for WinXP - I use it pretty often for software that won't work in Win7, and occasionally need a NLE without having to boot up to Win7

I understand that you can install Vegas on more than one machine (two max?) provided that you don't run it on more than one machine at a time. So you could have a copy installed under both operating systems. If the two OSs are on the same physical machine then there certainly would not be any problem.

website under maintenance.......

worked on lightworks in another life (20 years ago?). pretty good if i remember correctly, though all i was ever doing was cut2cut, oh, odd dissolve and fade to black.....

heavyworks looked like the place to be but i never got there....

"I understand that you can install Vegas on more than one machine (two max?)"

right; but I believe there's a lifetime install limit of 8 activations (or some such . . .) - after that, you need to contact Sony to get another batch of activations. I'd rather skip the hassle

(I still edit in V8c, the most stable for editing, and may be reaching my limit on 8c, having put it on several test machines when I was having troubles rendering until v9-64bit became available)

I've been getting the updates on this since back in the spring.... Can't WAIT to try this out. Want to see how it runs on my older hardware, as well as my fairly fast laptop. Having an easy way to deal with DPX files and such is going to be terrific.

For those who haven't seen the demo....

Interesting to see that Lightworks is still remembered. It's come a long way since I first used it in 1992. This was a couple of years later:

Just downloaded lightworks, the site seems a bit buggy I had to refresh each page a couple of times to get past page errors. It seems like a pretty capable program for FREEEEE sometimes open source stuff is pretty great Like Blender and Open Office.

I hope this is the same, Still love Vegas though and always will...

Paul B

I find the list of major motion pictures edited with Lightworks to be... how shall I put this... incredible?

It's been around a long time. And there have been quite a lot of features cut with it. Scorsese's editor has used it for many years. As have others.

Just remember that "edited with" and "finished on" are two different things.

Bob.

Very true. In that vein, most people these days aren't FINISHING on Media Composer, FCP, or Premiere... at least not at the feature level. That stuff is being finished on products MUCH further up the food chain.

But getting to picture lock with sound is still the domain of the editor, so that says quite a lot.

"Just remember that "edited with" and "finished on" are two different things."

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Bob.

it's out now in beta:

http://www.lightworksbeta.com

I talked about Lightworks here:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=12&MessageID=739132

In a nutshell: not stable at all, not very compatible, terrible over-the-top UI.

Eugenia said:

"In a nutshell: not stable at all, not very compatible, terrible over-the-top UI."

That's being kind. You can't even bring in standard DNxHD intermediates - and the interface is not intuitive at all. Vegas may have it's shortcomings, but I can get my projects done on time using the workflow I've developed using AVID DNxHD intermediates.

I was hoping Lightworks would be what it was hyped to be - IMO, it fell way short.

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I am VERY inclined to agree. VERY disappointing to say the least. I am going to toy with it for a few days, but unless something really changes my mind, this is going bye bye for now.

"Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Bob."

I know it's obvious to you and most people here. For some reason, probably due to the way certain things get hyped up, it isn't so obvious to everyone.
As Perrone said, indeed its amazing that today we can edit a feature on a laptop. On the other side of the coin many times I've been told that's ALL you need.

Bob.

back in another lifetime i used to EDIT features on low-band!

I'll /bump Eugenia's comments.

I had half a day off today so I loaded it up (when it eventually became available for D/L).

I use Vegas precisely because the fiddly, tweaky nature of NLE's like Premiere Pro drive me mad.

I gave the "getting started" portion of the manual a read, and then kept going until I was satisifed I could do some basic work.

I think the UI was designed by someone who desperately wants a floatier version of AVID or something. It kind of reminds me of "Fruity Loops" but on crack. Add into the mix some stability problems (granted it IS only Beta), and the fact that I can get my XDCAM footage to work, and, yeah, I went back to catching up on some reading.

It's a nice idea whose time has not yet come, and likely will not arrive for quite a while.

That's ok, I used to have to edit on paper. I then had to hand the numbers to guy in giant room of gear. He put it into a CMX system and then I lived with what came out the end. Made you think carefully about the choices :) Gawd I am feeling old tonight. That was after I stopped editing with a razor blade.

took it for test spin between sessions this morning... sigh.

i read Eugenia's post and it was pretty much exactly my experience (same "won't start" problem, same forum, similar crashes... i used TIFF instead of JPEG). i was hoping for something more original going on under-the-hood than the GUI indicates. not.

so what have i learned?
1) it was unexpected to visit the 90's again; the look, the crashes, oh the memories.
2) i am lucky Vegas is a good fit for my work
3) to be grateful Avid/FCP/Premiere/Edius are more important than Lightworks is

maybe Lightworks will improve, but think i'll wait for someone else to post this time... i was quite excited when i read the promo a few months ago :(

Just checked out Lightworks for the first time, seems interesting, but how is it better/different then Vegas? Does anyone who has Vegas need something like this?