OT Maya UnLTD £67

mark2929 wrote on 9/23/2005, 1:52 PM
I have the chance to buy Maya Unlimited normally Retailing for over £4000 for £67...
The seller insists it is above board because it has no Packaging No support and No Instructions...Only the disc and Activation...just WHY is this Possible? People who sell the rights to use this would be Maya and they surely would not allow a copy to be sold at that low price..OR Is it ...Is it Possible this was for sale in a poorer country quite legally at that price? After all intellectual rights do not consist of anything Physical OR Perhaps it could be one of a batch academic order?

Im not looking for OPINIONS as an answer .. This would not be helpful... I just want to know if This is something Maya allows IE I could buy a second hand ford 10 years old for a couple of hundred quid Ford would have no say in the Matter..Im not looking for Justification.. Just How and why this happens?

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Coursedesign wrote on 9/23/2005, 2:31 PM
The offer is very common, for many different pirated software packages.

Thousands of sources for the most popular packages, and hundreds of sources for the most unusual.

The developers are doing what they can to put these guys in jail, but they are like cockroaches.

The only legitimate deals you are ever likely to see are if you are a student. There are legitimate academic discounts that can be as high as 80% off.

Maya takes at least 3 months full time (5 days/week + nearly all spare time) to reach beginner status where you can even do basic things.

Lightwave is much easier to learn, as is Cinema 4D. There is Blender, which is a free opensource app (I didn't like it though). Sometimes you can get deals on TrueSpace, not a bad app for 3D.

Strata 3D CX costs $679 for a commercial license, but if you spend $19.95 on a subscription to Layers Magazine, you can buy it for $179 right now, and this package is an order of magnitude easier to learn than the other pro 3D packages, and it has high class rendering quality.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/23/2005, 6:25 PM
it's possible if someone was trying to clear it out for some reason, but highly unlikely... just as likely as you giving your house to someone for $1000.
mark2929 wrote on 9/24/2005, 1:15 AM
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Strata 3D CX costs $679 for a commercial license, but if you spend $19.95 on a subscription to Layers Magazine, you can buy it for $179 right now, and this package is an order of magnitude easier to learn than the other pro 3D packages, and it has high class rendering quality.
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So if I bought a subscription to the Mag bought the CD for$179 decided I didnt like it and sold the Strata CD for $67 to someone I have now sold a $679 Program for $67 at a later date "Legally" So it is very Possible this offer is above Board and quite "likely" especially if the offer is very Public and in the US ? I had hoped someone may have some insight to HOW Especially as there is an Activation Number? This number must be authorised but No Support or Updates...

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just as likely as you giving your house to someone for $1000.
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A house is Physical... Intellectual Property is Information.. That information costs nothing to Duplicate and will be sold according to what customers will Pay...

For instance if a Million people bought the Program at £67 But only a Thousand will buy it for £4000 They will make more Money by selling it at £67..
Of course the best way is to sell it first for £4000 and keep reducing it until everyone has a copy at the price they will pay.. Thats why you get academic Prices discounts and the same product being sold in other Countries for less Money.. Its Maximising what they can make..

What I am trying to find out is in the Process of Maximising there Profit.. Have cheaper copies found there way onto the Market? In which case they would be Legitimate..
Grazie wrote on 9/24/2005, 1:29 AM
Call MAYA directly or their representatives and ask them openly. Would get rid of any obfuscation, bafflement and opinions you don't want to read here. No?

Grazie
mark2929 wrote on 9/24/2005, 2:14 AM
Grazie

This Program could be part of a Bulk buy deal or been bought in another Country at a cheaper price or part of a promotion or alloted free Licences to staff even... Anyway whats it got to with Maya if someone is re-selling it ? They would be perfectly entitled to sell at any price..Although Obviously everything has a second hand Value and £67 sounds like a con and on that Basis of reasonable suspicion I wont buy it..Of course sometimes a real Opportunity comes along and if that is genuine then sometimes you get lucky ..

Just wondered if anyone Knew any way that price was Possible..
TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/24/2005, 5:06 AM
it IS possible, but highly unlikely. Even though a house is physical property & Maya is data, Alias STILL only sells may on CD's, which cost $$$, and pay employes, makes manuals, etc.

if it was feasable at $67 then it would not of been $15,000 to start with. it's the same thing as if you sold your house for $1000. even if it's legit you should still make sure. if alias busted you (and you're posting on public forums how you think it's legit) you'd go bankrupt. This isn't some $50 game you'd be ripping off.
mark2929 wrote on 9/24/2005, 6:15 AM
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it IS possible, but highly unlikely.
Even though a house is physical property & Maya is data, Alias STILL only sells may on CD's, which cost $$$, and pay employes, makes manuals, etc.

if it was feasable at $67 then it would not of been $15,000 to start with. it's the same thing as if you sold your house for $1000. even if it's legit you should still make sure. if alias busted you (and you're posting on public forums how you think it's legit) you'd go bankrupt. This isn't some $50 game you'd be ripping off.
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I wouldnt be ripping anyone off BECAUSE I WOULDNT BUY IT I thought I had made this CLEAR...: )

Its not the same as a House..

Some other things I made clear

1) The Program costs £4000 not £15000

2) The program is being sold without a box or a manual Just an Activation code..

3) Opinions are not helpful ..

4)Just HOW this can be sold with an ACTIVATION Code at this Price SURELY the Activation is Controlled by the Makers..If not why not...and whats the point of us all having the hassle of Activation if it does'nt work...

5)If this is regarded as the same value as a House WHY can some get it cheaper Or why should there be promotions and shouldnt other countries pay the same...and if the Competition supersedes it it becomes valueless...SO If I sold My House and a Student turns up does this mean I have to sell it for peanuts the whole HOUSE comparison just does not work.

SO If Maya was sold in Russia for £100 ..And Because Im not a russian citizen Im not eligible to buy this? If thats the case "What a rip Off" In fact in the UK FOR Years we got Ripped off By other Countries and our own industries because we are an Island and therefore a captive Market..

My intention is not to BUY just to find out WHY...


farss wrote on 9/24/2005, 9:41 AM
The activation codes are not necessarily controlled regidly by the makers. Many vendors such as uSoft sell corporate licences, these may cover say installation on 1000 PCs and for the convenience of the IT staff they all use the same activation code.
So you get a copy of the program with the activation code for that release and you're up and running. Until that is someone wises up and wonders how come 10,000 activations have occured for that one code when the licence only allowed for 1,000.
uSoft have been extremely generous in this area, they could have stopped the piracy but their policy seems to be better you run a pirated copy of our code than a paid for version of someone else's, so far they seem to be doing nicely out of it too.
But I doubt Alias can afford to be so generous, they don't hold 95% of a HUGE market. Also anything produced in Maya does kind of say "Made in Maya" unlike this post which could have been typed using any OS.
Also if you want to give Maya a try without mortaging the house they do a have a freebie.
And then again, you might have found a once in a lifetime bargain, why not ask the guy selling it? If it's all legit I'm sure he'll be very forthcoming.
Bob.
mark2929 wrote on 9/24/2005, 9:59 AM
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So you get a copy of the program with the activation code for that release and you're up and running. Until that is someone wises up and wonders how come 10,000 activations have occured for that one code when the licence only allowed for 1,000.
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Thanks Bob I thought it could be something like that..I still dont know for sure and Im not going to worry about it...Far as Im concerned the asking Price proves something was wrong.. BUT I couldnt work out what...