OT: Newbie lessons learned

mcgeedo wrote on 5/8/2003, 9:02 AM
I hope the more experienced folks don't mind this post. I am fairly new to video production and I just finished a very large job. I learned a bunch of lessons that I hadn't read about in my studying of the topic, and I wanted to share with other newbies so they could avoid some of the pain I experienced.

My job was a 4-day shoot of a 90-minute musical variety show, with three camera setups. There was live and recorded (karaoke) music, comedy, etc. The final product was DVD and VHS in multiple copies. The lessons:

1. Don't let your success depend on others, if you can help it. The show sound was provided by others, and the plan was I'd get a feed from their board. The live band was mic'ed, mixed and played out to the audience on the PA. When the drummer got too loud, the sound man turned him down in the PA. Guess what my feed sounded like... Right, almost no drums. Next time, my own board...

2. Use the same kind of camera for each setup. I used a digital for "down-front wide" and an analog for "platform-left pan-and-zoom." Yes, you can, with color curves and other filters, make the two shots look pretty similar. But this is tedious, grueling work and the time is better spent making the whole thing look better, not fixing problems.

3. Make sure you have a say in the lighting. I have a guy in a white shirt against a black velvet back curtain, with no lights except for a hot, white spotlight. It looks as bad as it sounds... And get more light than you need. You can always stop the camera down, but there is damn-all you can do to fix a grainy, green under-exposure.

4. Kill the videographers. A dead body can't shake the camera. I'm kidding, but only a little bit. Get the heaviest tripods you can afford. Look into fluid heads and stabilizers. Train the operators and emphasize "STEADY!" You can, with track motion and pan/zoom, fix some camera movement. But after a few hundred million hours of this, it begins to get a little boring.

5. Don't bite off more than you can chew. I have been doing video as a sideline/paying-hobby for about a year. I must have been completely nuts to take on a job of this magnitude with no more experience than I have. Your second project is the riskiest. After the first little job, you think you can do anything. On the first one, you don't have all the big problems, and a little practice with VV makes you think you could do "The Matrix." So the second job comes along, and you say "Sure, I can do anything! Three cameras just means I'll have more clip choices, right?"

6. Keep reading this forum. Every day, I find something new that is helpful. The experts, like Chien and Billy Boy, don't know me from Adam, but they have improved the quality of my work tremendously.

Thanks again for your patience with this and my other posts.
-Don

Comments

Arks wrote on 5/8/2003, 10:12 AM
great post Don.
jetdv wrote on 5/8/2003, 10:35 AM
1. Don't let your success depend on others, if you can help it. The show sound was provided by others, and the plan was I'd get a feed from their board. The live band was mic'ed, mixed and played out to the audience on the PA. When the drummer got too loud, the sound man turned him down in the PA. Guess what my feed sounded like... Right, almost no drums. Next time, my own board...

So, you are going to setup right beside the soundman? Then you are going to run duplicate wires to every mic'd location? Then you are going to run sound while running a camera as well? Good luck. The better solution may be to use a mix of board sound and ambient sound.


2. Use the same kind of camera for each setup. I used a digital for "down-front wide" and an analog for "platform-left pan-and-zoom." Yes, you can, with color curves and other filters, make the two shots look pretty similar. But this is tedious, grueling work and the time is better spent making the whole thing look better, not fixing problems.

Using the same camera definitely helps. Also, white balance all cameras under the same condition in which the show will be performed!


3. Make sure you have a say in the lighting. I have a guy in a white shirt against a black velvet back curtain, with no lights except for a hot, white spotlight. It looks as bad as it sounds... And get more light than you need. You can always stop the camera down, but there is damn-all you can do to fix a grainy, green under-exposure.

If this is a production, they probably will not modify their lighting just for you. You may request, just don't expect a positive response. Besides, the lighting crew has already practiced using the lighting scheme and are not going to want to deviate from that on a live show.


4. Kill the videographers. A dead body can't shake the camera. I'm kidding, but only a little bit. Get the heaviest tripods you can afford. Look into fluid heads and stabilizers. Train the operators and emphasize "STEADY!" You can, with track motion and pan/zoom, fix some camera movement. But after a few hundred million hours of this, it begins to get a little boring.

Good equipment (tripods, fluid heads...) will go a long way. So will PRACTICE. Have the operators practice ahead of time and review their tapes so they can SEE where their movements were bad. Also, with 3 cameras, are they all moving at the same time? If one starts to get shaky, move to a different camera.


5. Don't bite off more than you can chew. I have been doing video as a sideline/paying-hobby for about a year. I must have been completely nuts to take on a job of this magnitude with no more experience than I have. Your second project is the riskiest. After the first little job, you think you can do anything. On the first one, you don't have all the big problems, and a little practice with VV makes you think you could do "The Matrix." So the second job comes along, and you say "Sure, I can do anything! Three cameras just means I'll have more clip choices, right?"

Yes, it is best to progress in small steps.


6. Keep reading this forum. Every day, I find something new that is helpful. The experts, like Chien and Billy Boy, don't know me from Adam, but they have improved the quality of my work tremendously.

Agree whole-heartedly.
sonicboom wrote on 5/8/2003, 11:15 AM
mcgeedo
great post
i agree with you 100%
i started from scratch 2 1/2 years ago, and my learning curve accelerated exponentially by visiting this forum daily. also, i read the entire manual and practiced what i leanred.
the final piece of the puzzle is to have people in this forum critique your work
whenever i post a video on the web, i ask people to view it and offer tips: good and bad
this was and still is an excellent learing tool for me
hope your project went well
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