OT: Opinions about new PA system for my band

DSP8000 wrote on 3/13/2005, 10:57 PM
Hi,

I was just wondering if some of you guys know something about "good deal" for a PA system for my band.
Curently our choice is Yamaha Loud speakers c series with two subs, Yamaha P7000S amp, dbx DriveRack PA, dbx effects, Shure mics, SoundCraft Mixing Console.
We are pretty much set on the mixa,amp and the dbx DriveRack PA, but I'm looking for maybe better solution about the speakers and effect unit.
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.

Regards,
DSP8000

Comments

Peter Vred wrote on 3/14/2005, 10:06 AM
Go Here: www.bose.com/musicians

Forget all that "Tons'O'gear" concept...this is the future of live audio for those who play typical bar type venues (it's not for the arena).

I have one of these systems, they are awesome. No...they aren't huge and won't make your penis bigger (although the speaker tower does resemble one), but they sound great and they are drop dead easy to set-up/teardown/transport.

If each player in the band owns one of these you will no longer need:

guitar/bass/keyboard amps- this replaces those
effects- you can use them if you want, but won't need them.
compression/Equalizers
monitor speakers
sound man
a big van to haul it all in

When you consider all these things, the cost of $2000 per system is CHEAP!
($2300 for the double subwoofer system needed for drummers/bassists).

Check out their user forums. There is very little about this system that is not great.

In my personal view, the greatest thing about this is how YOU will sound to yourself on stage. It's hard to explain to a newcomer to this approach. You've got to try it to see.

You can get a 45 FREE TRIAL period!! they even pay shipping back if you don't like it.
But you will like it, if you try it...guaranteed.


Drumr
Rednroll wrote on 3/14/2005, 4:47 PM
I have no idea what size the Yamaha speakers are that you're referring too or the size of the room you want to play in. The JBL EON speakers are very popular for a small club setup and I've used these on numerous occassions. They're a self powered Speaker/Amp setup, durable, and not too heavy. It sounds like you have an amp already though, so maybe this isn't the route you want to go. I would check out some of the other selections at www.jblpro.com or ditch the seperate amp and go for a set of EON 15's with the seperate EON subwoofer option.
DSP8000 wrote on 3/14/2005, 10:16 PM
tnx. for the suggestions guys,

Ok, there is no need for any penis enlargement speakers?/*^~
Our live performances are mostly small concerts, weddings(this is where "the penis enlargement speakers kick in if the bride changes her mind")...
Usualy we play in big receptions, so we need good quality speakers etc.
I know about the JBL EON's and I've good experience with them, but for some reason Yamaha's Loud Speakers sound more crisp to my ears.

Regards,
DSP8000
musicvid10 wrote on 3/15/2005, 7:43 AM
You'll have fewer mic feedback issues with Yamaha speakers than JBL. Used 'em both in small and large rooms. JMO
scifly2 wrote on 3/24/2005, 11:54 PM
It would help to know the # of players and instruments in your band.
Im a drummer / singer for 35 years. A sound man for 30 years. I recently tried out the Bose system suggested earlier in this thread. What a pain in the butt. Most bands with more than two or three people need a sound man. The band that wanted to try this had drums, bass, 2 guitars, keys, horns, lead singer and vocal mikes all around. The reason for trying the system was to simplify the audio setup. On this trial ( as sound man ) I had to constantly run back and forth from FOH to stage to listen and then adjust sound at each tower. What a dumb idea. You might hear yourself ok, but what if your one of those keyboard or guitar players that think it sounds right when your 4 times as loud as everone else. Electronic drums are ok but what if your drummer has an acoustic set and needs mikes? Bring out the mixer. And what about FX? Forget it. Giving every person on stage a way to increase his or her house volume at will is a bad idea. Forget the Bose. It sound like your on your way to a nice PA system allready. A good experienced sound man is also more important than all of your other audio investments. He should have a good ear, be able to trouble shoot and repair, know how to provide reliable power and keep mic grabbing drunks and girlfriends off the stage. My suggestion to simplify a setup would be to go with powered speakers. Cut out the setup time and clutter of speaker wire, crossovers, and amps. Scale your setup to match the venue by adding or removing the number of powered cabinets. As for effects, I like at least 2 seperate units for delay and reverb. One is too complicated to work with. One unit for reverb, slap, chorus etc. on vocals and some drums and occassionally guitar. The other delay unit for echo to individual chanels. A tap tempo and/or blinking rate indicator is great for matching echo to tempo.