OT: Phantom of the Opera

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 1/1/2005, 11:37 AM
Saw the new Phantom of the Opera yesterday, and I was abhored to see some of the scenes simply out of focus slightly and not corrected through the whole scene, but then the other camera in the same scene was sharp. It was like they didn't take the time to focus. Other than that, Some great use of light and imagery. I suggest it, and I don't do the whole musical thing.

BTW, how far from film is 10-12 bit? like the viper etc...

If anyone here might be in the know.

Comments

Jay_Mitchell wrote on 1/2/2005, 12:49 AM
I saw Phantom, last night. There were lots of things that I didn't care for.

For Example:

The singing throughout the entire movie was lip synced. And, if you look closely at some scenes - it shows.

I also noticed the out of focus style and soft filters, used. I think it was for effect.

It was a good story and I love the music. But, it was flat and two dimensional. And, in no way did it compare to a live production.

Jay Mitchell
rextilleon wrote on 1/2/2005, 7:32 AM
Singing in every movie musical is lip-synched---It might have been bad lip synching.
busterkeaton wrote on 1/2/2005, 2:15 PM
Well it was directed by Joel Schumacher who is one of Hollywood's worst. But he always comes in on time and under budget, so he works constantly.
moosemusa wrote on 1/4/2005, 3:07 PM
anyone who can make a fast paced movie which takes place mainly in a phone booth can't be all bad... (as opposed, say, a slow paced restaurant booth like my dinner with andre)...
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 1/4/2005, 3:21 PM
Jay, I know that they used some soft focus scenes etc, via filters from what I can see. I do not think that say, the masquerade big song and dance number overall scene shots, and the scene where Christine and her man were talking in the window sill of the chapel area were both intenionally done with one roll being in focus and one out of focus. They both had two cams or two runs, and one was soft physical focus and then they cut to a nice sharp image ( they employed a mist style filter or something, but it looked very much like it was cover up-ish in appearence with the window sill scene.)

Any way, I just was bothered by it. Some of the scene's on their own were great, combine them with the rest of the movie however, and it wasn't so great. Of course My wife loved it, so there you go.
busterkeaton wrote on 1/4/2005, 3:37 PM
Does Phone Booth really make up for 8mm or Batman and Robin?
Cheno wrote on 1/4/2005, 8:18 PM
Look at Phantom's box office return and you'll notice that most haven't cared to even see it :)

Schumacher has a great style, although his versions of B&R stunk, visually they were all unique. Phonebooth was originally an idea by Hitchcock and well done by Schumacher on a 10 day / $10 million budget. True he hasn't had much sucess lately but his stuff always looks great.

mike
musman wrote on 1/4/2005, 10:12 PM
I grew up going to the Alabama Theater (which is one of the most beautiful places, not just theaters, I have ever been to- you can check out the 360 degrees tour here: http://www.alabamatheatre.com/about.aspx?rn=1) every Halloween to see the old Phantom of the Opera movie and listen to mighty organ resonate throughout.
Once you've had that experience, the Phantom in any other environment, setting, etc is not particularly appealing. Also, as a writer who at least tries to pride himself on original material, the idea of adapting a musical play seems a bit of a waste. In most cases I'd rather see something wholely new.
But who knows, maybe it's good afterall.
Jay_Mitchell wrote on 1/6/2005, 3:17 AM
I'm no movie critic. And, my opinion is my own. But, this movie was miscast by a long shot. There was no chemistry at all between the three main characters.

Christine - reminded me of the first Star Trek movie in which most of the time the actors were just staring up at things. The First Star Trek was boring and got tanked by the critics, for that. Christine, spends alot of time in profile just staring up at Raoul and the Phantom - and it bugged me.

Raoul - reminded me of a teenage Michael Bolton.

The Phantom - reminded me of a younger Antonio Banderas

I think the Phantom and Raoul would have made a better couple.

The Chandelier Scene was worthless and without impact. This alone was a great anticipation at a live performance.

I think this movie would have turned out alot better if only they had better actors in the lead roles.

The movie was not totally bad. I did like some of the action scenes. And the effects were good. it just wasn't what I had hoped it would be.

Jay
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 1/6/2005, 8:13 AM
Course if I was able to slap my name on it I be pleased as all get out with it.

:-)

Dave
Coursedesign wrote on 1/6/2005, 9:35 AM
I saw a film shot with the Viper Filmstream that got a major film festival award, with special praise for its "lush 35mm cinematography."

:O)

It really makes great-looking "film".

The Viper requires a true expert to use, it is quite different from "ordinary" cameras.