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Galeng wrote on 1/24/2006, 2:37 PM
I've got the Primera Bravo II printer/duplicator. I am very happy with it and can print multiple DVDs without a problem. I build a DVD duplicator, so don't use it much for that anymore. The printer outputs at 4800dpi. It does a nice job.

Galen
jrazz wrote on 1/24/2006, 4:08 PM
I use the Bravo II as well and it was a good investment for me. I haven't looked at the market in over a year. I bought a refurb off ebay for less than half of what a new one costs. I had a problem with it; it was still under warranty (1 year for refurbs) and I sent it in and got it back within 2 weeks with a new burner and everything recalibrated. Great service and a great product.

A couple of negatives. The ink does not last long and is expensive. I know this is subjective, but if you print an entire disc surface with top quality- I dare say you get about 100 discs or so from your ink. Also, if you don't use it for a while, it will definitely dry out and leave lines on your disc, so you have to clean it and waste a disc in so doing. I assume these will be problems with all disc printers though.

I would definitely buy the upgrade for the software (Surething deluxe) so you can export your files into other programs to edit them while they are already in the cd shape. Hope this helps,

j razz
Coursedesign wrote on 1/24/2006, 4:30 PM
Primera and Rimage both have a good reputation from many sources.
craftech wrote on 1/25/2006, 7:00 AM
For the $1500 - $2000 or more those cost, they still print one at a time. You just don't have to reload each time and as someone said, the inks are expensive.

A better alternative would be two to four inexpensive Epson or Canon inkjet disc printers for a few hundred. Takes up a little more room, but it will cost less in the long and short run and be faster to boot.

John
jrazz wrote on 1/25/2006, 8:00 AM
Craftech,
I see your point about buying cheaper printers, etc, but I think in the long run, this would cost you more due to time. You still have to load each printer with a disc, set up the print options for each printer, put the design in each of the printers software packages (unless they are all the same printers), but you still have to select each printer individually so that it will print. By the time you get done doing this Bravo II would have arleady have printed the same amount of discs, and you don't have to be there to babysit the process.
I think in the long run, printing 1 at a time unmanned is a lot more time efficient than printing say 4 at a time while manually having to set up each print.

j razz
rs170a wrote on 1/25/2006, 9:41 AM
...you don't have to be there to babysit the process

Thanks j razz. That's exactly why I'm looking into one of these units. After all, wasted time is wasted money :-)

Mike
BrianStanding wrote on 1/25/2006, 1:06 PM
Why hasn't Epson come up with a magazine or feeder tray to load up multiple disks and give Primera some serious competiition?

$1500 for a single-purpose inkjet printer is highway robbery!
craftech wrote on 1/25/2006, 1:32 PM
jrazz,

It is possible to print simultaneously to multiple printers with third party applications:

LEADTOOLS ePrint

Print Distributor

IntelliScribe

PrintRush

If you want to write your own program to do it here you go.

John

jrazz wrote on 1/25/2006, 1:49 PM
John,

Do you use the method you brought up for printing CD's? I would be curious to know how it works with printing CD's. The script was way over my head, but the programs seem like they would be a good investment for printers that were used for printing documents. It would still be cumbersome to change out discs one at a time, but it would be beneficial for printing say doctoral dissertations as you could print a ton at the same time.

j razz
craftech wrote on 1/25/2006, 6:34 PM
Do you use the method you brought up for printing CD's?
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No. I tend to avoid printing on the DVD's despite my Epson R300. I do it occasionally when I am not going to produce a case jacket insert, but instead a transparent jewel case with a single DVD inside of it.

I like the plain silver shiny DVD's inside a beautifully designed DVD case. No one seems unhappy and using my duplicator and a single photo printer for the jackets, they are done very quickly. Since my limit is 1 hr on a DVD-R most often two DVD's in a double case with a killer jacket design are what my clients get. They love it. A small 1 & 2 or A & B on each disc tells them apart.

But if I were looking to do what you want to do, I would do one of the above things I mentioned.

John
corug7 wrote on 1/25/2006, 6:57 PM
At home I use the Epson R300. Single disc as you know, but since I don't do a WHOLE lot from home (mostly weddings and such), it works just fine and print quality is excellent. At my day job we use Rimage thermal printers and Trace Affex PowerPrinter IV inkjet printers on our discs. Both are real workhorses, but both tend to have their own issues, too. They are a little pricy compared to other solutions, but if you are looking to do a lot of discs, they are excellent choices.

PS: These units DON'T incorporate a burner.