Strange... it looks like Windows Vista to me.

Windows 2000 (NT5) looked like 98 but was WAYYYYYYYY better. :D

"Strange... it looks like Windows Vista to me."

Well it's not being touted as a full new OS from what I've heard, just an upgrade from Vista. All the more reason to loves me OSX.

Yep, there was an article on Cnet that Vista was windows 6.0 and windows 7 is actually 6.1.

Are you sure that's not the new Mojave OS? :)

http://www.avantibiz.com

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I wish they would put a bit more effort into things like the memory management and disabling a lot of the services that most people never use anyway.

Vista brought a flash new interface -- and turned the rest of it into a fat, lethargic slug.

A leaner, faster O.S. kernel and faster file-system would buy them a lot more cred in my books.

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Yep, like i've said before, i want the OS to run my computer, not run my life.

Boring! What I want is the ability to change everything about my desktop. Essentially I want a skinable OS. Yes I want better everything just like everyone else: better memory management (XP is great in that regard), less stuff running (as was mentioned do something about the dozens of services), more, more, more. BUT I want my eye candy. That's one of the things I really like about Vista is that it looks so incredibly cool. It makes that other OS (what's it called OSY, no let's see was that OSZ?) look limited. Not only does it look cool but videos continue playing even when doing the 3D thing (Windows Key + Tab). I also like the translucent bars. Yep I'm driven by graphics. XP has been a great OS, Vista on my laptop, but it's time to break another barrier. Win7 is going to focus heavily on the touch capabilities.

"Am I bovvered?"

How's this for a new skin for Windows 7?

John

> Boring! What I want is the ability to change everything about my desktop. Essentially I want a skinable OS. Yes I want better everything just like everyone else: better memory management (XP is great in that regard), less stuff running (as was mentioned do something about the dozens of services), more, more, more. BUT I want my eye candy.

Oh... so you want Linux! ;-)

~jr

Took a look at the link on the first post, and thought: Oh, great! Now we've all gotta learn German to use a PC!

EDIT: Sorry, bad joke. Haven't had coffee yet this morning.

Windows 2000 (NT5) looked like 98 but was WAYYYYYYYY better. :D

Agreed!

But in this case, Microsoft has officially stated that Windows 7 will have the same kernel as Vista so that program compatibility will be maintained.

A relief for many, I'm sure (after years of chaos with trying in vain to use incompatible XP drivers in Vista).

So, expect Win 7 to be Vista 1.2 (1.1 was SP1).

As for touch, Apple has had that for a long time on their notebooks, and even more advanced on the iPhone. I'm finding the iPhone gestures to be totally intuitive and totally addictive.

If Apple hasn't sewn up all the patents already, I'd like to use a Wacom tablet to do finger gestures on my XP machine. And we don't need Vista or Windows 7 to implement that functionality.

The whole Windows 7 concept is frankly beginning to seem conceived for one purpose only: to sell upgrade contracts to corporate customers.

Selling boxes to upgrading consumers sure hasn't been a viable business model for Vista. It seems 99% waited till they had to buy new machines with Vista pre-installed.

In a way I feel sorry for Microsoft. They were the cable company of software ("If you don't like our stuff, you can go somewhere else, huh-huh-huh...." :O), and they're having a difficult time adjusting to functioning in a market with competition in OSes and Office Suites.

"The whole Windows 7 concept is frankly beginning to seem conceived for one purpose only: to sell upgrade contracts to corporate customers"

I don't know.... I think the MAIN purpose of Windows 7 is an elaborate method of changing the NAME.... Vista obviously doesn't seem to be liked too much. They may add a few little things, take a few away but my guess is that you will be looking an OS with different colors and such... but still close to 100% vista under the hood.

You may be right about that too.

When Windows 7 was conceived, it had a micro-kernel and all kinds of advanced features.

Then as soon as the post-**ital cigarette had been smoked, the features started dropping off.

Same thing that happened with Vista come to think of it. Remember the DBMS-based file system?

I'm glad I got Vista Ultimate pretty cheap; hopefully the upgrade to this thing won't be too pricey, considering it looks like it'll be not much better than Vista (though I've had no problems with Vista, personally). Also, I think the prohibitively high prices for Vista (compared to past Microsoft OSs) was another of the main reasons Vista was a bit of a failure.

"I think the MAIN purpose of Windows 7 is an elaborate method of changing the NAME.... "

Windows 7 is simply the OS Vista should have been. Even Microsoft is now saying it's okay to wait for Windows 7 instead of moving to Vista.

"Vista obviously doesn't seem to be liked too much. "

Well - it was a half baked attempt at an update that the public finally woke up and gave the finger to MS on. Myself included. That first build phase from Nov 2006 to April 2007 was brutal. SP1 however - made the OS very stable and usable. I have finally migrated all our main studio boxes over - but it took a long while. And I had to replace all the hardware.

"They may add a few little things, take a few away but my guess is that you will be looking an OS with different colors and such... but still close to 100% vista under the hood."

It will be 100% Windows 7 under the hood instead of 37% Vista and 63% bugs and slow crap.

And I believe it will be the OS that people will finally step up to and say - Hey - this is how it should have been in the first place. Face it - MS really screwed up on a lot of stuff while laying the groundwork for Vista. Now with three years worth of negative feedback to wade thru - I think they finally get the picture.

The whole development process for Windows 7 is now lead by the same guy who handled the Office program for many years - and in the blog posts I have been reading - this alone should result in a much better deliverable.

I am looking forward to next summer.

Cheers!

VP

Ballmer speaks.

I'm sure Corporate America is relieved now that Ballmer says it's okay to wait for 7.

I would not be surprised if businesses elect to stay with XP and/or 2000; if their apps run fine on them, what possible motivation is there to jump? But perhaps I'm missing something.

I have used numerous Linux distros and even though I do like some of the cool graphics it is not worth giving up my Windows XP system. In fact my Linux drives at home and at work are busy gathering dust as we speak. However, if I had to pick my favorite it would be Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio if you want low-latency audio capabilities).