OT: SSD vs. 10K RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

Rich Parry wrote on 4/12/2012, 12:50 PM
I've heard great things about SSDs (speed, power consumption, heat, noise, etc).

Nevertheless, I am leaning toward a SATA 6 Gbp/s, 10K RPM Hard Drive (Western Digital 600GB Velociraptor at $239 from B&H).

I believe a 10K RPM with SATA 6Gp/s interface is only slightly lower R/W rates and I get a much larger disk.

Anyone think I am making the wrong decision.
Rich

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Comments

Birk Binnard wrote on 4/12/2012, 2:15 PM
If you are using Vegas much you will want 2 disks in your system - one for input and one for output.. Make the boot disk an SSD and get the fastest HDD you can for the other one.

There are 2 key reasons for getting an SSD: speed and reliability. A mechanical disk is not even in the same ballpark as a solid state device when it comes to long term reliability.
NicolSD wrote on 4/12/2012, 5:01 PM
A mechanical disk is not en the same ballpark when it comes to R/W speeds either. They are not in the same ballpark... they are in different worlds! But you must make sure the SSD you buy supports the TRIM command.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 4/12/2012, 5:43 PM
Reliability , in a 'disc' with bits that die when you've written to them a relatively low number of times ?!

I know the internal subsystems are supposed to mitigate this by cleverly automatically shuffling the data to new locations, but I'll hang off for a while until this proves not to be a real-life problem.

geoff
Terje wrote on 4/12/2012, 6:24 PM
>> A mechanical disk is not even in the same ballpark as a solid state device

This is correct. A mechanical disk is orders of magnitude more reliable than an SSD. SSDs have fairly short life spans by disk standards. I would not recommend using them for anything but the boot disk and software installations. Do not store stuff on your SSD that you can not afford to lose. If you store data on SSDs back up VERY often.
Hulk wrote on 4/12/2012, 9:07 PM
Here's my opinion. And I have both SSD's and mechanical drives.

I use a 128GB SSD for the OS and applications. They load instantly. I could never go back to a mechanical drive.

I use a 128GB SSD for editing. After the editing is finished I output to a mechanical drive and move the project to the mechanical drive for archiving until I delete it. 5400rpm drives are fine for me since it's really only a storage/backup drive. All the work is done on the SSD's.

I would never, ever consider spending money on a "fast" mechanical drive. They are all just variable degrees of slow once you've used an SSD.

As for the lifespan of SSD's. Before writing about the suspect lifespan do a little research and you'll find that unless you're looking at an enterprise server situation you'll likely get 5 years or more out of the SSD and that's if you're writing quite a bit to it on a daily basis.
rmack350 wrote on 4/13/2012, 10:58 AM
So you're saying you're running two SSDs, one for OS and programs and the other for editing, and that a 128MB drive is adequate for your editing projects.

I'd add a caveat to that. If you're working with less heavily compressed HD footage then you might need a lot of storage space and a lot of throughput.

One other thing I'd add is that if you're restarting Vegas or rebooting the entire OS a lot then a fast SSD would save a lot of frustration. Back in the days when PPro CS2 was taking down our edit systems every 20 minutes we could really have used an SSD to boot from!

Rob
Rich Parry wrote on 4/13/2012, 12:43 PM
Thanks to all that replied. Since a majority thinks the SSD is the best solution, at least for the system disk (OS & apps) I am willing to change my mind.

When I researched SSDs 1-2 years ago, Corsair and Intel were condiered very good. Is there a brand folks here are happy with. I would like 200GB SSD, 160GB minimum.

thanks,
Rich

CPU Intel i9-13900K Raptor Lake

Heat Sink Noctua  NH-D15 chromas, Black

MB ASUS ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi

OS Drive Samsung 990 PRO  NVME M.2 SSD 1TB

Data Drive Samsung 870 EVO SATA 4TB

Backup Drive Samsung 870 EVO SATA 4TB

RAM Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB

GPU ASUS NVDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

Case Fractal Torrent Black E-ATX

PSU Corsair HX1000i 80 Plus Platinum

OS MicroSoft Windows 11 Pro

Rich in San Diego, CA

NicolSD wrote on 4/13/2012, 12:45 PM
The best ones, as far as I can tell, are the Intel. The Series 520 that came out this Spring are superlative. I have two in my computer.