OT: Superbowl gets the coolest toys :)

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 2/1/2009, 2:58 PM
well, I was just watching them freeze a playback shot, and then make virtual camera moves through a suddenly 3D scene, then move the players around in possible moves, and then undo and move the virtual camera back to it's normal position and resume playback of the video.

I'll take two please :)

(I know this is done by creating a 3D scene by computing all the video angles in a massive computer system receiving all feeds of the field - but wow - that's really pretty impressive - maybe it's been shown before, but this was the first time I caught it)

Dave

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Coursedesign wrote on 2/1/2009, 5:41 PM
I missed that, but I saw the 3D commercials after the 2nd quarter.

Unbearable except for part of the commercial for tomorrow evening's episode of "Chuck" in 3D.

I think you can guess which part looked good, a classic.

Jim H wrote on 2/1/2009, 9:34 PM
I couldn't see anything resembling 3D...not a bit. Were the glasses normal red/blue? I was using Red/Blue glasses I've had for a while, not the ones they were supposed to be giving away.
John_Cline wrote on 2/1/2009, 9:46 PM
It appears that they are using yellow/cyan instead of red/blue. I didn't see it as I couldn't find any of the necessary glasses.
musicvid10 wrote on 2/1/2009, 9:59 PM
I thought it was even more amazing how they got Jennifer Hudson's and Bruce Springsteen's lips to move when there wasn't even any music coming out.

You'd think these "pros" would at least practice enough to be able to sync to their own tracks.

It wouldn't have been any worse if the whole thing was being dubbed into Japanese.

That they tracked the whole thing is bad enough; that they couldn't sync well enough to fool the average viewer is deplorable -- oh yeah, Springsteen's mic went live for the last 30 seconds of his set for some spoken ad libs, now that was convincing . . .
Coursedesign wrote on 2/1/2009, 11:20 PM
ATSC broadcasting has no way to ensure lip sync currently.

It's not Springsteen's fault, only Jenny's (for being too nervous to sing to her usual standards :O).

There are a lot of SMPTE engineers working on the audio sync problem, but it's difficult in that all links in the chain from studio to the ultimate TV set introduce video processing delays that are not predictable due to the differences between equipment brands and models in every step of the chain.

It needs something like separate audio and video "time code" type sync.

A temporary solution can be found in many A/V receivers: a menu-settable variable delay. Pathetic, but helpful for now.

Coursedesign wrote on 2/1/2009, 11:33 PM
couldn't find any of the necessary glasses

Ask customer service at a major supermarket. At Ralph's they had the glasses hidden behind a box on the CS desk.

All stores selling beverages are supposed to have these (150 million have been distributed), 7-Eleven would be another place worth checking.

Note that "one" means a sheet of four, and tomorrow Monday at 8pm PT/ET they'll be of use again for watching the one hour show "Chuck" in 3D on NBC.

For the commercials at least, I found that the effect was better when sitting closer to the screen than I normally do.

JJKizak wrote on 2/2/2009, 3:38 AM
My glasses were red/blue and they worked just fine except for knocking down the brightness a bit.
JJK
musicvid10 wrote on 2/2/2009, 8:56 AM
**ATSC broadcasting has no way to ensure lip sync currently.**

The issues I observed and commented on with both performers had absolutely nothing to do with ATSC sync issues, which when present, manifest themselves as a constant offset running either ahead or behind the program, and consistently so at least for a given program segment.

Both recordings were obviously made in the studio (did you hear the overprocessing?), and both singers did a terrible job of matching them, as if they hadn't bothered to listen to them in several days . . .

These "performers" were ahead of the music, behind the music, all around the music, moving their lips when there was no music, or just plain MIA. In other words, the random occurrences of not knowing their own recordings well enough to fool anyone on the nation's most-viewed broadcast. With their sophisticated in-ear monitors and a direct feed to broadcast, this was not even close to being a technical issue, but sheer laziness. They could have actually sung their songs and everyone would have loved it!
Coursedesign wrote on 2/2/2009, 9:05 AM
When I heard the beginning of Springsteen and the E Street Band, I thought it sounded really "cardboardy" so I turned the sound down and took care of some other things.

If they also couldn't lipsync, they really need some coaching.

je@on wrote on 2/2/2009, 3:58 PM
I believe Springsteen was actually live. He seemed out of breath following the collision with the video camera.
busterkeaton wrote on 2/2/2009, 4:03 PM
I wasn't looking for lip synching and didn't notice it at all.

Springsteen is also 59 years old and was running around and jumping on the piano, so his being out of breath is not really evidence he was singing.