I felt rather sorry for the poor defenseless moon suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and other pot shots. The Gulf of Mexico also must have made a big splash when it was created (before BP messed it up, that is).

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They have to explain the very basics before they get to this.

How does a guy in the northern hemisphere see the light and shadow rotate from left to right and so does the guy in the southern hemisphere except one sees the light on the left and on the exact same night the other sees the light on the right= remember spin of light is in same direction for both. The guy upside down should see the moon upside down as there is only one sun but when you see his timelaps of the light rotating it should therefore be spinning in the opposite direction from the guy in the north but it does not. Why is that???

Anyway let’s do a test everyone on this forum who is interested please take a wide angle shot of the moon and a close up post it and say which hemisphere you are in, the guy in the southern hemisphere should see the moon upside down = but will he?

Videographers and cinematographers notice stuff like this where other people don’t.

Is this one of those folk stories? Are you suggesting that we folks in the Australia see the noon day Sun to our south? Of course the Moon is seen the other way up from the southern hemisphere. The "spin of light" is a concept that you need to explain in more detail - I presume you're not talking about polarisation.

wow, that was amazing - i didn't know they had cameras that long ago ;-)

Of course of course it is? To check that data is right is just plain crazy!

I did a quick clip

wow, that was amazing - i didn't know they had cameras that long ago ;-)

They did, you'd just forgotten.

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Grazie now add light. The giants would see the light on the same side = flip bottom south looks like moon phase calendar = but light is spinning in opposite direction

Seriously take the photos folks and e-mail them to me roryc@tsogosun.com so I can check if the southern guys see the moon upside down
I am in the south so all folks in the south or north please send them to me so I can compare them to a moon map texture. And then I will post the reults

Excuse me if I don’t believe a word the oligarchs say because they lie about almost everything.

I remember reading about the hale bopp comet that some people saw it from late afternoon right through the night into early hours of the morning until it faded and they could watch it the next day and I visualized why the comet did not rise and set like the sun and moon over 12 hours but this thing just ignored the education system and went on its way as the sun and moon rose and set every day this thing just plodded on and nobody said WHAT!!!

O yes Grazie nice images, are these from London?

I just received some from New Zealand and at a quick squiz same side up as yours but with a heavy tilt to the left but I will have to compare with my 3d editor to make sure.

Nice clip Grazie.

Rory, are you serious? Given that upside down is a relative concept, obviously what is top to one would be bottom to the other, and left to right for one would be right to left for the other, as shown on Grazie's graphic above.

Thank you Rory and thank you Peter.

These were shot this year in January in London, about 15 miles WNW (West Nor West) from the Greenwich (Meridian) Observatory.

Peter, that graphic was not mine. I hoped it would help to demonstrate.

Grazie

Peter focus on the light

1.Flip the moon for the guy upside down.
2.The guy upside down can’t see the light in reverse he has to see the light the same as top but only moon is upside down but the light has to spin in the same direction as guy at top so match light
3. now compare the guy upside down moon to right side up guys moon = the light is going in the opposite direction

How can that be? = are there two light sources in space = no = only one sun.

This has to do with light stuff we work with.
You guys go out like me every day and film and you don’t ask yourself if I point my camera north the shadows should only move in a straight line from west to east, all shadows in the north should only point north and all the shadows south should only point south and only move from west to east in a straight line because the earth is a spinning ball with one light source. This has bugged me for years.
Now look at your time laps shadows and you don’t think someone is talking crap and it’s not the sun.

Rory, what happens at the Equator?

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Visualize it in your mind Grazie the shadow should move or stretch from left to right in an absolute straight line to above midday perfect match and then stretch to the right in a straight line the shadow cannot arch or bend in any way because the light is fixed.

Sounds good.

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Actually I'm interested in just what happens when a traveller, travelling south from the UK, crosses the Equator, sees the Moon gradually assume an "inverted" position as he goes further South.

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Sorry Rory, don't get your logic. The light comes from the right for one, and from the left for the other,

I moved from the northern hemisphere to the southern in the '70's and one of the first things I noticed was that the sun in Australia appears to rotate from right to left, whereas in England it was from left to right.

I think what Rory is referring to is the shape of the lunar terminator.
The Wiki here explains the phases of the moon very thoroughly. I found this of great relevance as it's exactly what Peter is saying:
[I]"Phases of the Moon, as seen looking southward from the Northern Hemisphere. The Southern Hemisphere will see each phase rotated through 180°"[/I]

Bob.,

Grazie Well if you take a flat plane one guy on the left one on the right and moon in the middle now bend the plane so that the two guys are at 130 degrees from each other both see the moon right side up and light spinning in the right direction for both the problem is the guy at the equator is in rehab because he sees the moon upside down and every day is a half moon spinning middle