OT: Using a camcorder double-duty in live/recorded work

smhontz wrote on 1/30/2005, 9:10 AM
I'm part of a two-person video team at our church. We have zero budget, so everything we've done has been done with our Sony Digital 8 cameras and equipment/software we've purchased ourselves. We've been saving up to buy higher-end equipment, and we're looking at maybe purchasing a couple Panasonic DVC30's.

Our church is now in the process of giving birth to a new church, and there IS a budget for equipment this time. I've been asked the question of whether we can get a couple of cameras that we can use both for our video projects AND that we can use live for church services (not recording, just live feed to two video projectors). We will be using a high school auditorium for some time, so everything needs to be portable.

We need to combine two cameras, a DVD player, and a computer feed into one unit (switcher/scaler?) and feed two projectors. Transitioning between one feed and another doesn't have to allow cross-dissolves, just clean cuts, so I believe we can get away with a simple switcher/scaler that hides the cut without having to go the full-blown TBC, genlocked camera route.

I have $10,000 to work with. I'm wondering whether I can move up from the DVC30's we were looking at to two Panasonic DVX100a's, some cable to hook 'em up, and a switcher/scaler to hook it together.

Any experiences/recommendations/opinions out there? I've heard that other churches just starting out have done this, but haven't had a chance to talk to anyone personally yet...

Comments

Spot|DSE wrote on 1/30/2005, 9:58 AM
Why DVX100a's? unless you're looking at doing 24p, there is no real benefit to them. Lesser cameras can fit your need more appropriately, IMO.
I've never done this for a church, but have set up a lot of school systems. The camera quality is important, but 2 GL2's or PD 150's, or similar will give you the same image for less buck, unless again, you're looking for 24p. 24p in a live setting would drive me nuts, seeing differences between the actual action and the projected action.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=276450&is=REG is a decent switcher, and in the couple of times I've used it, it worked great. Add a couple 1500.00 cams, and you're still slightly under budget.
smhontz wrote on 1/30/2005, 11:29 AM
Spot, thanks for the info. I'm interested in the DVX100a's 24p mode for the video production side of things, not the live camera side. But, as I do more research, I see that I'm not going to be able to get it all for $10,000, so cheaper cameras will be the way I have to go.

I'm still leaning towards the Panasonic DVC30's, but don't have any real experience with any of the cameras. Any opinions on DVC30 vs GL2 or PD 150's?
Lili wrote on 1/30/2005, 12:10 PM
Re cameras - highly recommend PD 150. I now have the PD 170, easy to use, great quality, and is especially good for shooting in low-light situations. I think you would love it!
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/30/2005, 1:00 PM
I've got a reasonable amount of time with the PD150, and some with the 170. I love them. I've got a ton of time with the GL2, we have 3 of them. I'd take the 170 over the GL any day. Much better DOF, much smoother to operate.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/30/2005, 4:30 PM
I have a PD170 and VX2000 and was using them at a conference when another videographer setup his GL2. The lighting was awful in the hall.. and the GL2 video was all but unuseable. The videographer looked at what my PD170- and VX2000 were doing and his jaw dropped in total shock.

If you have good lighting... then it probably won't be a big deal.. but if you have poor lighting conditions.. the PD170 etc save the day!
donp wrote on 1/31/2005, 12:54 PM
Just did a broadcast within a Ky. State Park to all the lodge room and cabin TV's of a program at the lodge on last Saturday night. I used my DVX100a for that and it worked great. Got a lot od really good comments from the guests and park officials.