OT: Vegas in Porn

p@mast3rs wrote on 8/13/2008, 9:13 PM
I was speaking with a colleague tonight about how much market Vegas really has an editor and I was told that Vegas enjoys tremendous success as the NLE of choice in the porn right up there with Final Cut. While I didn't believe him, he referred me to a website for adult web masters and I could not believe the number of people in the adult industry that use Vegas. Is this how Vegas continues to compete with Adobe and Apple? I had no idea that it had so many users in that line of work.

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farss wrote on 8/13/2008, 9:16 PM
Talk about a tease, where's the link to this website?

Bob.
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/13/2008, 9:22 PM
Its called www.gof*ckyourself.com - change the asterik to a u
Cheno wrote on 8/13/2008, 9:31 PM
I would beg to say that Vegas has more of an influence in Porn production than Avid, Adobe or Apple. I know of forum participants here who have trained some of the production companies.

The whole BD vs. HD DVD wars? In the past it's been porn that's determined format wins, but this was a first for the studios. I figured it would be the porn guys / gals winning out.

Funny thing is when I was in college and we would be shooting film / video projects, people would stray by and ask what we were doing. If we didn't want them there, we'd say we were shooting a Maxi Pad commercial - no one stayed. If we were okay with them being there, we'd first tell them we were shooting a porn film. Amazing to see how many held out to see when the "celebrities" would show up. In most cases, we'd just move on and keep 'em waiting ;)






johnmeyer wrote on 8/13/2008, 10:16 PM
Over the years, many people have referred me to that web site, although they never seem to include the "www" at the beginning, or the ".com" at the end.


rmack350 wrote on 8/13/2008, 10:23 PM
We'd usually say it was a diaper commercial. Same appeal and it was easier to say this than to explain whatever the shoot was really about.

If a shoot was ever anything close to porn there was never a chance for the public to be hanging around.

I have a friend who was lighting and later shooting porn. He recently took me into a store and pointed out the videos he worked on. "that, and that, and that..." Maybe about 15 titles in the last few years. Very busy but he's got nothing to show for it. It's a lousy business. Hard to make a reel to show new clients.

Rob Mack
John_Cline wrote on 8/13/2008, 10:23 PM
John: LOL! Good one!
Rory Cooper wrote on 8/14/2008, 1:22 AM
John

I get the www While We Wait. not the .com
Rory Cooper wrote on 8/14/2008, 1:23 AM

I get it a lot
DGates wrote on 8/14/2008, 2:52 AM
I would beg to say that Vegas has more of an influence in Porn production than Avid, Adobe or Apple."

Finally, Vegas has something to hang it's hat on.

(said with plenty of sarcasm)
John_Cline wrote on 8/14/2008, 4:08 AM
I don't care who's using it as long as Sony is making enough money to keep developing it.
Rory Cooper wrote on 8/14/2008, 4:14 AM
One of our properties sent over a content producer for a few days to spend with me and they have also switched over to Vegas
When I started here I threw all the other NLE’S in the locker ‘except for AE and Boris” and installed Vegas
Every one complained in the beginning

After a short while everyone changed their attitude

I’ve never understood why Vegas isn’t receiving the recognition it deserves

Vegas allows you to be very creative very quickly
farss wrote on 8/14/2008, 6:10 AM
"Vegas allows you to be very creative very quickly "

Sadly not if you own an EX1 and have updated the clip browser!

I started 60 minutes ago. 14 minutes to copy 1 hour of video.
After that 14 minutes I can start editing it in Ppro. Well no hang on, I don't even have to wait for that. I could edit straight off the SxS cards.

And now after as long as it would have taken me to capture the same footage from tape I can finally get it onto a Vegas T/L. This is getting creative quickly?

Should I mention that when I start a new project in Ppro it has all the XDCAM EX presets, no second guessing required. And I can search or sort clips by any of the XDCAM tags.

Something is wrong, seriously wrong. Adobe fully support Sony's latest and greatest HD cameras and Sony Creative Software doesn't. And people wonder why Sony's HDNA roadshow gave Vegas a 5 second mention and then only V7.

Bob.


newhope wrote on 8/14/2008, 7:40 AM
Bob
Now we are really getting off the original subject matter but what about Vegas and AVCHD.
Can't even import directly from the camera. When I do get the M2TS files off using the supplied app the files stutter and f*rt all over the timeline when playing on a system with Dual dual core 3GHz Zeons and 10Gb RAM.

I boot the Mac Pro back into OSX and fire up Final Cut, open Log and Transfer and there's the files, still on the camera with thumbnails and I can import and transcode them into Apple ProRes in about 1/4 of real time (duration). FCP has no problem playing the resultant 1920x1080 HD files.

I read that even Pinnacle Studio Plus 12 can import and edit the native AVCHD files.

What is going on with Sony and Vegas if Apple and Pinnacle can get it right?

New Hope Media
Widetrack wrote on 8/14/2008, 5:00 PM
Porn was largely responsible for VHS winning acceptance over beta for home video. I also know a guy who put together one of the earliest CD-ROM replication operations in LA who told me the porn people were his best customers. "They pay their bills," he told me.

I'd bet the DVD world works the same way.
Jim H wrote on 8/14/2008, 7:01 PM
"Finally, Vegas has something to hang it's hat on."

...or a damp bath towel.


Porn brings out the best in folk.
[r]Evolution wrote on 8/14/2008, 8:04 PM
What thread is Vegas mentioned under?
link?
BibbityBoo wrote on 8/14/2008, 8:05 PM
If all the carping on here about Sony's lack of commitment to Vegas is true, perhaps one can hope that when Sony abandons it, someone may be able to take it the way Blender went into brandname "oblivion." I can't wait, as I'm very tired of both Microsoft and Apple and am really just holding my breath for the day there's an open source NLE that can let me move entirely to Linux. ;)
p@mast3rs wrote on 8/14/2008, 8:57 PM
Actually, Cinerella just released version 4 for Linux and it is open source.
rmack350 wrote on 8/14/2008, 10:36 PM
Is it any good yet? I kind of hated Cinierra when I first looked at it, and the developer's weird paranoic rants were very offputting.

I think you can hold out zero hope that Vegas would ever go the way of Blender. First Sony would have to sell it to a small company who would then need to lose their shirts on it, not be able to sell it, and then they'd have to be inclined to make it open source or otherwise free.

Rob Mack
farss wrote on 8/15/2008, 1:04 AM
Haven't checked this out but I assume you could transcode AVCHD into one of the Cineform codecs and get RT playback in Vegas. The alternative is to use GPU acceleration but I suspect we'll see pigs fly before we see that in Vegas.

Bob.
fldave wrote on 8/15/2008, 5:58 AM
Nice to know that I might be able to get an interesting job if my day job goes away!
rmack350 wrote on 8/15/2008, 8:39 AM
Meh. More interesting to think about than to actually do. Another friend of mine started out his career as a shooter on straight porn in the 70's. A great chance to shoot 35mm but he said he always felt like he needed to bathe by the end of the day.

Yet another couple of friends did music tracks for gay porn in the 90s. It was decent money but became very dull work pretty quickly.

All in all, I think porn is a career cul de sac, but there's always going to be porn so if SCS can sell more licenses that's great. I don't think it hurts them at all except for the fact that they can't really say that X, Y, and Z were edited with Vegas.

Rob Mack
Coursedesign wrote on 8/15/2008, 8:54 AM
Scientists say there are only seven jokes, as in "all jokes ever told are variations on these seven."

It's worse with porn movies, because there are only five of those.

And they're not as funny :O).
Steve Mann wrote on 8/15/2008, 11:16 AM
"...or the ".com" at the end."

That was worth a good one-minute chuckle. Mostly because it took me a few seconds to get it....

But, you'll never hear that from me.

Steve