OT: warning re: "silver printable DVDs"

DVDeviations wrote on 6/19/2004, 6:57 PM
Buyer beware....

At NAB I saw these "silver printable DVDs" that looked really great in the demo. The photo on the DVD would reflect with the light and was really quite beautiful. However, I did not take into account the fact that the demo guy was using a highspeed printer that costs about $2400.00.
I use an Epson R800, which prints great quality on the white printable DVDs and costs ~ $400.00. So, after buying some "silver printable DVDs", and printing from my printer, I did not get the same results as at the NAB demo. Also, even after I waited more than 5 minutes, the ink on the DVD is not dry and smeared (the white ones dry very quickly).
I need to investigate this matter further, but I suspect to be able to get the same quality as the NAB demo, I need to also buy the $2400.00 printer, which is something I can't do ... YET!

** The company doing the demo (and who I bought the DVDs from is MSE Media. The disks are made by a company called Taiyo Yuden and cost about $2.25 each (for a 50 disk spindle). Sorry, don't remember the name of the printer, but you could email jeff@msemedia.com if you want to know about it.

Colleen

Comments

B_JM wrote on 6/19/2004, 7:04 PM
the Taiyo Yuden silver backs (high gloss, silver lacquer top surface) are excellent disks -- BUT ONLY FOR THERMAL OR SILK SCREEN PRINTING ONLY .. !!!!!!!!!


if you paid more than 1.85$ US for them in 50 disk spindles - you got ripped off ..



dat5150 wrote on 6/19/2004, 8:16 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I've wondered about the silver printables.
Grazie wrote on 6/19/2004, 8:52 PM
This aws the next question I as gonna ask as part of my DVD printing research . . Silver is not gonna happen!

Grazie
farss wrote on 6/19/2004, 10:10 PM
I should be getting hold of some gold inkjet printable DVDs, already can get same thing in CDs. These are being made for archival storage. Max burn speed on the DVDs will be 2x. The gold that you see is the gold reflective layer, the printable surface is matte to hold the ink. Only suitable really for black printing but with a bit of good graphics design can be made to look pretty slick I'd imagine.
These things are not cheap, but if you want something certified to last 100 years definately the go.
DVDeviations wrote on 6/20/2004, 12:10 AM
Thanks everyone for the feedback. B_JM, can you send me some information about where you buy your disks? I guess I will put the silver disks on the shelf for a while, hopefully I will eventually upgrade my printer.

If you have information on good prices for the white printable disks, I would appreciate that.

Thanks,
Colleen
wolfbass wrote on 6/20/2004, 3:31 AM
Farss,

That sort of reliability is something I'm interested in, please keep us informed on Brand, Cost, availability etc.

Thanks,

Andy
farss wrote on 6/20/2004, 4:41 AM
My supplier is in Australia but he will ship OS.

www.prodisc.com.au

Please note however he is NOT the same as the Prodisc that markets in the US. They are from a Taiwanese company by the name of Prodisc Technologies.
JJKizak wrote on 6/20/2004, 5:32 AM
Can anyone expand on this reliability thing with speed and quality of the discs?

JJK
farss wrote on 6/20/2004, 6:22 AM
If you're referring to the Prodisc stuff from Oz, you can buy the quality and the speed that you want. The highest quality archive grade CDs you probably wouldn't burn at more than 20x, the audio masters at a max of 12x, made primarily for real time CD recorders.
Depends what you're after. I will not say I haven't had a bad DVD from this guy. What I will say is he likes me to send them to him and I know he test every shipment, by that I mean he tests the reflectivity.
Also the dyes are superior, basically you gets what you pay for, for general day to day stuff they're a bit of overkill, particularly the CDs.
But for masters that I believe are going to be around for many years and given the cost of making whats on them the cost of the CDs and DVDs is irrelevant.
B_JM wrote on 6/20/2004, 6:24 AM
Posted by: AZEdit below has a good listing and a good sample of stores .. since i buy in bulk 1000's at a time -- where i buy from is not a good rRepresentative (also because i am Canada) .


but i do help to maintain a good listing of all DVD media data at www.dvdrhelp.com
Randy Brown wrote on 6/20/2004, 6:30 AM
I have an Epson R300 and have had great results with these. I think they're an incredibile value at $0.45 each (spindle of 100).
Randy
DVDeviations wrote on 6/20/2004, 10:17 AM
thanks everyone for pricing info - I will look into these.
wolfbass wrote on 6/24/2004, 5:56 PM
Farrs:

That's great, I'm in Aus too!

Thanks.

Andy