Panasonic DV2000 Deck and Vegas

tvwonder wrote on 3/15/2002, 1:54 PM
I have recently purchased a Panasonic AG-DV2000 deck (hallelujah - no more hooking up the XL1 to edit!). I also purchased a SIIG OHCI FireWire card so I can use the capture/print to tape functions built into Vegas. I have been using the Canopus DV Raptor for compatibility with the XL1, but I want to be able to edit and output to tape right from Vegas, since I've found it to be the best editing software I've used.

I am having a problem printing to tape, though. When the process finally starts, aobut a minute into the print to tape, I start getting random glitches on the output of the DV2000. I have also had the same trouble trying preview on external monitor through the DV2000 while editing. This is no better for me that trying to use the XL1 with an OHCI FireWire card - I've never gotten it to stop flashing blue every few minutes.

Does anyone have a suggestion of what to look for? Could it be the SIIG card? I have absolutely no problem when hooking the DV2000 up to the DV Raptor, but I don't want to use that as my main card because it doesn't work directly with Vegas.

Thank you,

David Sheneman

Comments

deef wrote on 3/15/2002, 3:59 PM
Ensure DMA is enabled for your hard drive/controllers.

Defrage your hard drives.

What are your OS/system specs (including motherboard)?
tvwonder wrote on 3/15/2002, 5:05 PM
deef,

DMA is on and working fine. The drive(s) I'm using is a striped set of 4 34GB 7200 RPM IBM drives on a Promise FastTrak controller. I use them all the time with the Raptor and have never had a dropped frame from lack of speed (in over two years capturing long segments - well in excess of an hour).

The glitch I'm seeing is more like the deck switching in and out of the DV input mode, not something you would see from drives not being fast enough.

Here's my system:
Dual PIII 700 MHz on SuperMicro P3DC6 or something like that
512 MB RAM
2 x 20 GB 7200 RPM drives (system and audio)
4 x 34 GB 7200 RPM drives (video stripe set)
30 GB Onstream Tape Drive
HP CD Burner with Nero Burning Rom 5.5
Canopus DV Raptor
SIIG OHCI FireWire card
Video Toaster [2]
etc.
pelvis wrote on 3/15/2002, 8:06 PM
This could be an irq crowding issue- please post your irq layout and maybe that'll point to something.
deef wrote on 3/15/2002, 8:59 PM
I'd heard of problems with the Promise controller and 440BX motherboard chipsets. I believe one user turned down the front side bus to 66.

try searching for "promise" in this forum.
tvwonder wrote on 3/18/2002, 1:29 PM
Thanks, deef, but as I mentioned I've been using this setup for almost two years and I've never had a problem that I can attribute to the Promise card. I've even captured long segments (20 or more minutes) of uncompressed video using Speed Razor - that's 22 MB/second - with no glitching of any kind on this same drive array.

Also, it's not, in my opinion, a problem with the drives keeping up, it's more of a problem with something that keeps resetting the FireWire signal coming into the deck, whatever would cause that.

Perhaps there's an issue now since I've added the SIIG FireWire card. I removed an Ensoniq AudioPCI card from the system since the Toaster's onboard audio works as the system's sound card now. This slot is where the SIIG card sits now.
tvwonder wrote on 3/18/2002, 1:33 PM
Okay, Pelvis, I checked on the layout of my IRQs and it says that the Promise card and the FireWire card are sharing IRQ 18. I can't change that in the properties of either device. How do I go about switching one?


db wrote on 3/18/2002, 5:55 PM
i have a pana2000 deck. using a pyro 1394 with NO problems .. ...

what about if you print from time line and do it so you manually have to put the pan2K in record mode ??? any glitches ?

tvwonder wrote on 3/18/2002, 6:40 PM
I'm not sure I've tried it manually. I just remembered that a few weeks ago I used this same setup (SIIG card included) with a Sony TRV820 Digital 8 camcorder with no problems for a half hour show. I believe I did trigger it manually. I don't know what's different with the Panasonic.
tvwonder wrote on 3/21/2002, 4:42 PM
Okay I just tried to print to tape by triggering record on my DV2000 manually and I still got the same glitch within about 40 seconds of the beginning of the spot (actually it was during the slate before the spot).

Any more suggestions?
deef wrote on 3/21/2002, 4:45 PM
Try putting the firewire card into a different PCI slot.
deef wrote on 3/21/2002, 4:46 PM
If you render out to .avi and then bring it into Video Capture for printing do you still have this issue? You can test it without printing by using the Preview on Device button and then hit the play button.
tvwonder wrote on 3/21/2002, 5:00 PM
Yes, same problem. I just tried it with some of the raw video I captured last week when I was in the process of discovering this problem. For now I'm rendering to an .avi with the DV Raptor codec and recording to tape using Raptor Video. That's not much of a problem with what I'm doing today with 30 second spots but with a 30 minute show it takes hours to render to DV Raptor and then I have to split up that .avi file into a Ref .avi so Raptor video will see the whole thing. All together it takes about 4 - 5 hours extra to get a show to tape.

I love Vegas Video but I'm starting to think that the time saved in the editing process is not worth the time lost in getting my projects out to tape.
tvwonder wrote on 3/21/2002, 5:01 PM
When I get a chance I will try the SIIG FireWire card in a different PCI slot. I guess I'll swap it with my network card.
deef wrote on 3/21/2002, 5:12 PM
Please post your email and I'll directly contact you.
tvwonder wrote on 3/21/2002, 5:16 PM
Sure, sorry. I thought it was available by clicking on my user name when I post a message, but I see now that it's not.

Please use mrsheneman@yahoo.com.

David Sheneman