Panning Models, Voice Timestretching, Envel Automation

Rockitglider wrote on 1/29/2002, 12:03 AM
To help introduce Vegas Audio users to the powerful new audio features in Vegas Video 3.0, such as Red Book Audio CD mastering with CD Architect Technology, "new panning models", "voice-optimized timestretching", "envelope automation"

I read this in a real long bitchin post somewhere and I wanted to know if anybody knows where I can read about these things in more detail since I don't recall seeing it in the VV3 manual, I would like to learn more about these three things in detail.

Thanks for any help, Rockit

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wvg wrote on 1/29/2002, 12:14 AM
It is covered in the manual. The full PDF version. I just spent the last couple hours messing around with track envelopes... adding points, fade curves, building a FX chain and using the various filters, etc.. There's a whole chapter just for the mixer control plus a lot of other meaty audio stuff.

For a simple experiment, right click on a musical audio track, select properties, then time stretch/ pitch shift under methods, select length and pitch, then play with the values for semitones and cents. I had a blast with a old Elvis Love Me Tender track. I made the "king" sound better. Well I think so anyways. LOL!
stakeoutstudios wrote on 1/29/2002, 5:23 AM
I've been experimenting with the alternate methods of panning, and trying to work out where each model is best used. So far.. equal power has been pretty useful when doing lots of wacky pan automation - sounds more controlled... any ideas?
SonyEPM wrote on 1/29/2002, 9:00 AM
Have you tried the smooth envelope keyframe types for Pan and Volume? These give a really nice "organic" feel to the mix- you'll be able to hear the difference from the default (linear) instantly.
Rockitglider wrote on 1/29/2002, 2:17 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the input so far. Everything I've tried so far is very kool.
I found alot of info about the "Panning Models" and the "Envelope Automation", So what about the Voice Timestretching?
Any more suggestions?

Thanks, Rockit
wvg wrote on 1/29/2002, 5:55 PM
Nothing beats READING the manual, cover to cover. The full PDF manual. Then do the tutorial. Then get creative with the tutorial. I could write several hundred lines on all the "improvements" I made to the basics gleamed from messing with the tutorial how-to.

Vegas Video is like Photoshop, Corel Drawl or Bryce in that you can QUICKLY learn the basics. The real power of each of these applications is in learning the finer points. That comes from experimeting. Lots of experimeting.
Rockitglider wrote on 1/29/2002, 10:07 PM
Hello,

I already read the whole manual and I still reference it quite a bit, It's impossible to remember all that.
I started to read the online help file , At first it would'nt startup when I clicked the Contents selection in the Help Menu, For some reason it didn't install into the Vegas directory on my hard drive I had to manually copy it from the Sonic Foundry Setup folder and create a shortcut to it from my desktop, I have the same problem with Acid Pro 3.0 as well, No help file either.

Win XP
PIII 850
764 RAM
Delta and Audiophile Sound cards
Radeon VE Video Card

But I don't know why this happened.
Has anybody else run into this?

See ya, Rockit
SonicTamara wrote on 1/30/2002, 1:39 PM
The new "voice timestretching" refers to a new option when time-stretching an event. Hold the CTRL key while dragging an edge of an audio event to stretch or compress the event while maintaining the pitch. Then right-click the audio event and choose Properties. In the Properties dialog, you'll see a drop-down list labeled Crossfade. The "Autofade for Voice" crossfade is the voice-optimized timestretching feature that was added in VV 3.0. This new crossfade mode is the default mode (although the other crossfade options are still available).

To quote the guy who developed this new algorithm, "Autofade for Voice mode automatically sets the fade size to an optimal setting based on the stretch/pitch ratio - so you can usually forget about tweaking the crossfade settings."

Hope this illuminates... :-)
bgc wrote on 1/30/2002, 7:20 PM
Are these new envelope types (like "smooth") what you mean when "envelope automation" is referred to?
I did a complete search in the manual (pdf format) and the on-line help and did not find the word "automation" anywhere. While the new envelope types are cool, they're hardly what I'd call "envelope automation".
Rockitglider wrote on 1/30/2002, 7:56 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out

Rockit