Do you lose resolution using this process?

It doesnt make sense to me, In that work flow Im scaling my clip to 5,760.0 X 3,840.0 in Pan Crop and graphic to 2,159.8 X 1,439.9 in Pan Crop and then back up to 1,309.90 X 1,190.80 in Parent Motion -at which time both the clips and graphic look blurry and pixilated

the aspect of the clips dont fit in the cells either. Im definatly on the wrong track- no pun intended.

should I be starting with a different size PSD?

I now tried a graphic of 1440 X 960 with 6 cells instead of 9 but still dont understand how VV is handleing assets or how make everything fit + still look good.

the clips are DV aspect and fit in cells when graphic is at its true size.

does it work to set the pan crop on one clip and then copy that clip. Then select all the rest of the clips in that track and right click and select paste attributes to easily get them all to be the correct pan cropped size, then use your parent motion? or is it something in the parent motion that won't move a clip in that track that has been pan cropped (I don't know that I'm entirely understanding the problem mind you and that may show in my commnets) but I've had no problem moving clips that have been pan cropped with track motion.

Dave

The central problem doesnt seem to be in the clips but how to get the extra wide graphic to display correctly and how that should be set up.

I uploaded the project, please help figure it out.

Go to:

http://ruthkagi.org

and DL VEGAS

Please note the size of the filmstrip and that I would like to have it scrolling and have controll over placement and size of it and the clips that would reside in its cells.

I added a new Parent Motion tutorial to my site on using both Parent Motion and Track Motion to make a filmstrip move with imbedded videos. Perhaps this will help you. At the end of the tutorial is a link to the veg file for you to dissect.

I looked at your project and your film strip is too big. The key is not in what actually exists, but in the illusion of what exists. In my veg file I use a smaller film strip (just wide enough to fit on the screen) but I double up my tracks so that it adds a new section behind the first film strip making it twice as long. In this way, your film strip could go on forever just by positioning another one after that.

Take a look at what I’ve done and see if it helps. Feel free to just replace my media with yours and use that veg file. In fact, that’s the beauty of Vegas 6. You can drop that veg file in your main project and use it as a nested project.

~jr

Thanks Alot for that! That really helps.

I still have a real problem understanding how VV handles graphics though and it seems like its very rarly discussed here.

It leads to believe either Im the only one who doesnt get it or no one does.

In fact, over the last couple years reading these forums I ve seem a discussion of graphics handling a couple times and it quickly degenerated to nothing.

Sure would be nice to have some concrete facts in my head, like 1+1 is 2.

thanks agian Johnny

I cannot claim to be an expert in graphics in Vegas... although I've so far managed to get it to do everything I asked of it... and I've done a lot of complex projects with graphics using pan/crop/track motion.

I don't THINK there is a big gap in my understanding of how it works... but... maybe I have not stumbled across the particular need that exposed this gap (if one exists).

Vegas handles graphics as if they were a frame of video. That was part of the problem with the approach you took. Vegas knew that regardless of how long your graphics was, the viewport was only 720x480. You couldn’t use Parent Motion with your approach because Track Motion and Parent Motion only work at the project resolution (in your case 720x480) so even though you knew there was more graphics on the sides, it will only show you what’s visible in the viewport.

Pan/Crop allowed you to move the long graphics under the viewport, but then you were on your own to move all the other graphics manually keyframing them in perfect unison (with no help from Parent Motion). This could have been done, but it wouldn’t have been as easy as using Parent Motion. Since Parent Motion was the easiest tool to solve this, I redefined the problem in terms that Parent Motion could handle.

Grazie sent me a private email about how nested veg files could be used and I agree. You could create several veg files each with one pass of the film strip but with different videos. Then use two tracks in Vegas to alternately drop the nested veg files so the filmstrips follow each other across the frame.

~jr

Hiyah! - yeah . . I didn't want to bog-down this thread with my normal, indecypherable ramblings . . JR understands my ways of thinking on stuff . . THANK you JR and the acknowledgement too . . nested timelines and projects aint just for "long" project assembly . . I am, and have been experimenting using them to create inter-related graphics and the like.

Best regards,

Grazie