Particle Illusion SE and VEGAS! ! ! Whhhoooaa .. .

Grazie wrote on 3/7/2004, 12:35 AM

I'd put a request for a MoBo fly thru for an imaginary minature space craft to do .. . well yer don't wanna know .. . Anyways, Tom reminded me of the Content disc - thanks Tom - and while "searching" in my well organised Studio - ha ha ha - I came across my disc of Particle Ilusion SE off the Digit MAg . . . . and . .. . well, I've had PiSE for how many months . . and using PiSE for the comet like and other explosions on the MoBo . . . It can't be right to have so much fun on a Sunday morning!

I've got the AVI as the backgorund in Pi, had to import as Uncompressed plain vanilla AVI, but it worked, and now I can COmpo the comet and explosions and flames in sequence with movie . . .

What format do others import their AVIs into Pi?

PiSE is THE biz! .. . that's all ..

Grazie

Comments

ZAZA wrote on 3/7/2004, 4:43 AM

Here is a little sample of PI :)
Have Fun £¡£¡£¡

http://www.zazavegas.com/Tutorial/alpha/zaza.gif

JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/7/2004, 7:18 AM

> What format do others import their AVIs into Pi?

I use the free Panasonic DV codec and convert the Vegas clip using VirtualDub. Then I import into PiSE. I wish Sony would fix thus bug, err feature, err... what ever they want to call it. It stinks that we have to convert all our clips from Vegas before using them with other applications!

I’ve been using PiSE for quite a while and its awesome. That’s now I added the flock of birds in this video I posted on Chienwork’s site.

~jr

craftech wrote on 3/7/2004, 7:31 AM

I still haven't tried my version of PI SE, but are you saying that even if we uncheck "ignore third party codecs" we still can't use Vegas files with PI SE?

John

DGrob wrote on 3/7/2004, 8:26 AM

You need to go to "render as," "custom," "video tab," and uncheck "create an Open DML . . ." This render will then import into PI no problem. The PI rendered avi comes back no problem. DGrob

roger_74 wrote on 3/7/2004, 8:54 AM

"I wish Sony would fix thus bug, err feature, err... what ever they want to call it. It stinks that we have to convert all our clips from Vegas before using them with other applications!"

Actually, Vegas is one of those programs that does things the way it should be done.

I don't have Particle Illusion, but try disabling OpenDML and/or Preferences -> General -> Strictly conform to AVI2 spec.

For VirtualDub etc you just need a VFW DV Codec, like Panasonic's or Mainconcept's.

4thorder wrote on 3/7/2004, 9:29 AM

I have seen PI before and it is impressive. However, I always wondered if the effects are copyrighted. It says nothing about this on their website. I would love to use many of the effects for scene transisitons on my slideshows.

David_Kuznicki wrote on 3/7/2004, 12:43 PM

Nope-- they're not copyrighted. This came up over at the Cow forum not long ago w/ the walking mouse image.

Now, if only PI would plug-in to either Vegas or AE, I'd be the happiest guy in the world! I've been debating the upgrade to 3.0 for awhile...

David.

rebel44 wrote on 3/7/2004, 3:16 PM

I am using PI v3.1a ever since v3.0 come up and never had eny problems to import to Vegas. The PI library it is not copyright( I asked this question the author of PI) and all library downloaded from PI are free to use and manipulate as you wish. My short video about space mouse pissing on fire it is allmost compleatly from PI library(few of my clips). Reanimated the mouse to sit and some other things. I love PI and as now- I can not see how I would get something dome without. If downloaded trial version it is full version, but put water marks on video.
If you wish to check the effects from PI go to: http://www,angelfire.com/alt/jes.
It is verry good addition to Vegas.

JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/7/2004, 6:14 PM

> if we uncheck "ignore third party codecs" we still can't use Vegas files with PI SE?

I don’t think it’s a CODEC issue; it’s how Vegas writes the headers. I thought I had tried that and it didn’t work. The only thing that works in Vegas is you have to uncheck the Use OpenDML option and then be limited to 1GB or use VirtualDub and a 3rd party codec.

> Actually, Vegas is one of those programs that does things the way it should be done.

I figured as much, which is why I called it a bug/feature/whatever. It doesn’t matter if Sony is right and the whole world is wrong, they are the ones who are not interoperable and so they should at least provide an option to capture and render it the wrong way so all the other programs work with their files.

~jr

Chanimal wrote on 3/7/2004, 10:53 PM

Another video on the Chienwork's site at:

http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/textdisp?chanimal-particle_illusion_disney_fx

Took an existing spinning glass logo and added some smoke, sparkles, explosions, the "non-copyrighted" mouse, and some music.

mark2929 wrote on 3/8/2004, 4:12 AM

Quite extensive use of PI fOR THIS Film and a healthy dose of Alam DV TOO

Alien Wars RAP

craftech wrote on 3/8/2004, 5:14 AM

Mark,
I must say. You have some of the most creative and well executed videos I have ever seen posted by Vegas users. Keep up the good work.
John

mark2929 wrote on 3/8/2004, 6:00 AM

Thanks John ! You certainly cheered me UP :)

mark2929 wrote on 3/8/2004, 6:52 AM

Tom What mark said to Craftech.. Also from me in this time period H :)i and thanks..

rebel44 wrote on 3/9/2004, 10:09 AM

Thank you Marquat. It was made allmost entairly oout of PI v3.1.
The room inside is a still image and the burning house it is actually my house.
I did some change to that mouse(annimation). All other FX are from PI. Just adjust the size and lenght and position in clip.
It was made to be funny, but some people saying that I have a "weird sence of humor".

DGates wrote on 3/9/2004, 9:41 PM

When I've tried PI, I can get the avi file in just fine, but when saving the project to avi from within PI, it's dimensions are 360 x 322, even though I've selected 720x480 as the project setting. Then when I look at the file in Vegas, it looks zoomed in.

DGates wrote on 3/9/2004, 10:08 PM

DGates, this is your alter-ego. I figured it out. What did you have to go and publish the question for? Now folks think you're an idiot. The output has to match the stage size in PI. Sheesh.

JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/10/2004, 6:53 AM

This was not easy to figure out when I first started using PI. I had the same problem (so either we’re all idiots or it isn’t intuitively obvious). It really bothered me at first until I started running my desktop at greater than 1024x768. Now it’s not such a big deal but sometimes I still expand the side panels to edit the properties and forget to set them back before rendering. So it’s still an annoying feature but it renders so fast that I really can’t complain. Overall I love this tool.

~jr

rebel44 wrote on 3/10/2004, 10:24 AM

To be honest with you -I never try the 3.0 demo. I tryied the v2.0 and then I won the v3.0 in competition on Cow Forum. I capture some music, but most of sound clips I use from wavethis.com. You can download a lot of different sonund clips. About rendering time- I wish that the Vegas was that quick. You can import background video and the edit the size and lenght of fx library file or (what I do) change size and increase frames to 3000 or more, render and then edit in Vegas. Eighter way it is fun.
Thanks

rebel44 wrote on 3/10/2004, 10:39 AM

I will upload the mouse to VegasUsers as soon as I find a time for. I have slow speed connection. Tha clip it is free to use for anyone. I am just having a fun with video editing.