Photos + Event Pan/Crop = Crash

Adam L. wrote on 3/5/2013, 9:19 AM
Using Vegas Pro 10e. Such a simple project *sigh*. I have about 10 pictures that I fly in and out of the various sides of the frame using pan/crop events in a 7 second clip. It's supposed to be the intro for a series I'm producing.

When I go to render, at about 35% the rendering stops. My only option is to hit Cancel. When I do, the render dialog stays there with the text "Render cancelled by user". Vegas is unresponsive, and if I try to close the window I get a dialog:

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Vegas Pro 10.0
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A background operation is currently in progress.
Vegas Pro cannot shut down until this operation is complete or cancelled.
Would you like to cancel this operation?
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Yes No
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Doesn't matter which I chose, Vegas remains unresponsive. I have to kill the process from task manager. I've tried rendering with mp4, DNxHD, wmv, all with the same results, so format doesn't matter.

Has anyone else ran into problems like this, or remember other users experiencing something similar? Can anyone try this to see if it works for them?

It literally takes about 2 minutes to set it up:

- Set project settings to any size, any frame rate
- Drop a jpeg directly on the timeline (or you can put it in media, it doesn't matter)
- Click on the Event pan/crop icon, right-click in the frame and choose Match Output Aspect
- Resize the frame outline to be twice as large as the photo and then drag the frame outline outside of the photo
- Click on the Last Keyframe button
- Drag the frame outline to the opposite side of the photo
- Render to video using any settings you want

If it repros it shouldn't make it all the way to 100%. It seems that the problem stems from resizing the frame. If I keep the frame indicator around the same size as the source photo I can render. However, if I resize it larger or smaller Vegas fails during the render. Also playing it back on the timeline will cause Vegas to lock up and stop responding.

Very frustrating that something so simple causes this type of problem. I really need this as photos are the basis of what the video series is all about (I'm a photographer and I need a somewhat flashy way to display my work.)

Comments

rs170a wrote on 3/5/2013, 9:29 AM
I just finished packaging 4 interviews where I made extensive use of still in the same fashion that you describe and never had any problems with Pro 10e.
How big (in pixels) are your images?
Can you post the veg file to a site such as Dropbox for us to try?
We'll use our own media for the test.

Mike
NormanPCN wrote on 3/5/2013, 9:48 AM
You might try re-compressing your jpegs such that they do not have any chroma subsampling. Most digicams photos have 4:2:2 subsampling. It seems Vegas might choke on some of these files.

Also, if they are high-res maybe reduce the size to at most twice project size.

More in this thread
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=852137&Replies=19

I too have seen VP12 have issues like this. Not the same version as you. Mostly with GPU enabled.

Worth a try. Photoshop can batch convert for you. SaveAs 8 and higher will have no chrome subsample.
The free Irfanview tool, can batch convert also and has a check box to disable subsampling.
Adam L. wrote on 3/5/2013, 9:52 AM
I've tried images that are 2592x3872 as well as smaller ones at 1198x1800. I've also tried various file formats: bmp, jpg, tiff. They all wind up with similar results.

Here's the project (just the .veg file):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wvxskset957ybsr/Test.veg?m
Adam L. wrote on 3/5/2013, 9:58 AM
You guys are lifesavers! Looks like it all revolved around the size of the source photos. I guess Vegas really doesn't like big images, or there's some project size to media size ratio that makes it bomb out. I tried a small version of the project I was working on that contained just 1 photo, and with it resized to half the size of the project it played back on the timeline and rendered just fine.

Thank you everyone!
Grazie wrote on 3/5/2013, 10:04 AM
Right, DON'T move - do me a favour:-

Do NOT resize, just save as a JPG from within a graphics package and import that newly saved JPG. If that works MAKE the JPG even bigger! Import that and see if that works . . . .

G

Adam L. wrote on 3/5/2013, 10:13 AM
Grazie I used PS CS5 and saved one of my raw photos as a JPEG with no resizing. That's a 2832x4256 photo. I put it on the timeline and was able to play it back. Added a pan/crop with matched output aspect as in the steps outlined above, played it back and Vegas promptly crashed.
Grazie wrote on 3/5/2013, 11:02 AM
Bother.....

Thanks

G
NormanPCN wrote on 3/5/2013, 12:06 PM
Now if we could firgure out how to get Sony to look into the jpeg and/or crop engine and tidy things up there.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/5/2013, 5:44 PM
Are you using 32 bit Vegas or 64? The 64 bit version would have more RAM memory to play with.