I've got an old *.veg file called "floating boxes." Can't remember the post where I picked it up, but I've used it a couple of times. Try searching the forum or shoot me an e-mail and I'll get it off to you.

Darryl

Somehow I managed to double-post this five hours apart. Strange.

John,

That's the one I believe. I recall it having a white background and there being shadows so I assume it's the replacement media I chose that changed that.

I don't suppose that was originally posted with a tutorial was it?

Ideally what I'd like to do is:
Key in footage of two kids on a "magic carpet" flying through the pictures. I'd like them to pass in front of the pictures that are further back and behind the closer pictures with each picture moving all the way forward for a few seconds as they already do.

I've worked with keying enough to be comfortable with it. This picture space thing however has amazed me since the first time I saw it. Looking at the veg, it seems simple enough albeit labor intensive. Am I getting in over my head trying to integrate the kids?

Thanks for posting the link!

Here is the link to the original posting I did of this on the VAsst site.
http://vasst.com/search.aspx?text=recruits.
It would be interesting to try and put something flying in and about the p[itures!

edit: You'll have to play with it a little bit but place your keyed image on a new video track on the bottom. Set it to 3D compositing. Do not make it a child or parent track. It will have its own motion. Then use pan crop to set the original size. Then use track motion and key framing to move it aound the pictures as they fly by. Just did a quick rough example and it works.

You might be referencing a modified Version of an intro I did for a little missions trip video I did for some clients.

File

and

Example

I can't remember who it was who modified them, but he had it as a white BG and drop shadows behind the photos. Anyway, here ya go, hopefully he'll chime in. And if this wasn't the one, then feel free to use this project file in anything that might help.

Dave

Dave those links did not work for me.

or me

It may be the file I modifed of Dave's you are thinking about.

I think it is the baseball.veg one.

Edit: on my link above, remove the %22 (2 of them) on my link. Sony's markup is messing up right now.

j razz

Also, on Dave's files above, just remove the jibberish before the www. and after the http://

j razz

Thank you everyone. Those are the veg files I was referring to. Anyone have any recommendations for track motion tutorials? I've never used it before. Looks like I have my work cut out for me.

Or if this effect can be accomplished more quickly in Ultimate S, I'll spend the money today. From what I've heard, Ultimate S can do quite a bit.

Thanks as always for all the responses. This community continues to impress!

I never used 3d track motion until I saw Dave's veg. Then I sent out to reverse engineer it and with a few emails to Dave, I was able to understand how to work out what I wanted and get the results I needed for my project.

Play around with it, see what it does and take note. If you mess it up while playing around, no worries, just open up the original veg file again and start over. See what the different options are and how to make them. Delete the top track, see what happens. Play with the parent/child relationships and see how it affects the movements of the items you have in the 3d space.

That is how I learned it.

j razz

j razz,

You mean work at it? Uggg...alright. :)

While I'm rendering it for the first time with my own media inserted and there must be a problem. It has been rendering for an hour and it says there is an estimated 3 hours remaining. This is on a Q6600 with 4 gigs of ram. All four cores are at 100%.

I don't know what I've done to choke it unless this is normal for this type of project.

Oh no, it is normal. Actually that is quite quick. It took me over a day and a half to render out the baseball veg in its entirety.

j razz

DOH! I assumed something was terribly wrong and terminated the render hours ago. It could've been done by now. I guess I'll just fire it up again and leave it.

Thanks for the heads up jrazz!

Just checking up on this and I fixed the links, sorry for the long delay in answering.

Dave

Thanks for checking up. I still haven't been able to locate drop shadow in track motion. If I open a track in a new veg. and add track motion, I can find the drop shadow option where it should be. However, in the example veg. the drop shadow is no longer an option in track motion. If I knew what I was doing I'd start building from scratch. Unfortunately, I'm still pretty clueless when it comes to track motion and parent/child relationships. Speaking of parent/child relationships, congratulations. :)

I'll put this in a post on it's own, but thought I'd put it here too.

3D_DropShadow.veg

It's a little easier to do it from scratch, but what you want to do is add a child track to each track in my original file that has media in it, and move the media to that new child track, leave that track in 2D, and then squeeze the footage in that track (by using the pan crop tool or track motion on the 2D track, your choice), and then add a 2D drop shadow to that new child track that you just moved the media to. From there, you will need to make sure that the shadow doesn't go out side of track "window" so to speak. (If you don't squeeze the footage in the track, you won't see any drop shadow because each 2D track that is a child to the 3D positional track is only a certain size)

A couple of things to watch out for is when you add a track sometimes that will kick the 3D track that the media is in back to a compositing mode of source alpha rather than retaining that 3D Source alpha that you gave it initially. Also, You want to make sure that the parent compositing mode of the parent tracks (found on the left of all tracks that are parent tracks) are set as a compositing mode of 3D source alpha along with the track compositing mode and that you do all your positioning of the master 3D source alpha in that parent track position if you're making a child track that has your media and you're adding a drop shadow to that.

If you're just using the media in 3D positioned tracks w/o the child tracks for adding your drop shadow, then you can position each one at the track level track motion and make sure that all the tracks are set to 3D source alpha track motion and be sure that parent track that they are all children to is set to 3D source alpha at the track compositing mode level, and the Parent track compositing mode settings found on the left of that parent track.

Hope this helps :)

Dave

Just a bump to make sure goshep gets this new file and sees the very short explanation since it was late when I posted it.

for a lot of veg file examples you could grab a used copy of the vegas 5 or 6 editing books...the dvd that comes with these books has a slew of veg files...a good learning tool to see them arranged on the timeline etc etc ...