I see......I hope you guys realize that this renders the
external monitor function utterly useless!

Even if you are only working on the video and not the sound
then this latency between the sound and picture is
completely unacceptable.

Dont get me wrong,I do realize that getting all of this to
work with all the different hardware thats available is a
pretty tough task but i do think that there should be at
least one combination of video capture/playback cards that
should work and stay in rocksolid sync!

Mostly i am frustrated by the fact that i love the program
for its audio functions and the way it integrates with
Soundforge, but I am afraid that i will have a hard time
explaining to my boss why I insisted on buying this program.
A program which now has taken me at least two days to
troubleshoot and the final conclusion is that it cannot
stay in sync, hence the fact that i cannot use it!!!

I am pretty sure that i would have bought the program
anyways just for the audio functions but i just think its
wrong to sell the program saying that it will do things
that it will not do, and thats when it starts to cost money
in downtime.
I dont know, maybe i was just plain wrong to assume that it
could be used in a pro environment?

Regarding an update .....I cannot tell my clients that
their projects will maybe be done by mid february (But i
refuse to promise!)

Sorry about the ranting but I am very disappointed.

Arnar




Dave Hill wrote:
>>We'll be releasing an update (2.0c) in the near future
that
>>will give you control over the video hardware latency.
>>This update will probably be released by mid-Feb, (but I
>>refuse to promise!).
>>
>>Arnar Helgi wrote:
>>>>Ok i have done that by now i hooked up my camera a
Canon
>>>>Xl1 via firewire and from there to my monitor via S-
video
>>>>and i can see the footage just fine but it doesnt sync!!
>>>>As in there seems to be a major latency at least 500ms!
>>>>Is there something i am doing wrong or is this just a
>>fact ?
>>>>Obviously it would be quite useless for sounddesign if
>>the
>>>>latency is a fact !? so that seems quite unlikely , so
i
>>>>must be doing something wrong, any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>Just to clarify ....
>>>>I captured some footage w/audio and when i play it back
>>the
>>>>audio sync´s in the preview window but not when I play
it
>>>>on the monitor.
>>>>And it seems to be about 500-600 ms.
>>>>
>>>>You guys give very prompt answers most of the time and
i
>>>>hope that will be the case now as i am losing out on a
>>>>deadline ( Aren´t we all:)
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Arnar
>>>>
>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>If you have avi DV footage, captured with our Video
>>>>Cature
>>>>>>tool, and play the footage back untouched in a DV
>>projct,
>>>>>>you'll be able to do soundesign to a broadcast-
quality,
>>>>>>29.97fps video track. (25 if Pal).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Arnar Helgi wrote:
>>>>>>>>Ok ...that sounds good, but i am mostly doing ads
>>>>>>destined
>>>>>>>>for broadcast and until now we have been making avi
>>>>>>>>versions of the ads so i can run them and do the
>>sound
>>>>>>>>design.
>>>>>>>>You mentioned that if my project is DV (does that
>>mean
>>>>if
>>>>>>>>its an avi i cant run it out the firewire?)then i
can
>>>>run
>>>>>>>>it to the monitor, but does that lessen the strain
on
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>computer so i can watch the video without dropping
>>>>frames
>>>>>>>>all over the place?
>>>>>>>>In other words will it run more smoothly then in
the
>>>>>>>>preview window in VV?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Basically what i am trying to achieve is this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I want to be able to see the video that i am
working
>>on
>>>>>>>>(sounddesign) on a screen without it being terribly
>>>>slow.
>>>>>>>>I would like to be able to use other formats like
AVI
>>>>or
>>>>>>QT
>>>>>>>>if possible , but i wouldnt mind it if i cn convert
>>it
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>DV format as long as i get it running smoothly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bottomline!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You see i use this prog mostly for sound fx and
stuff
>>>>and
>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>need it to stop dropping frames and to start
running
>>>>>>>>smoothly on an external screen!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(I will buy this box if you can tell me that it
will
>>>>run
>>>>>>>>the video better as in mybe it takes the strain of
>>the
>>>>>>>>puter when its sending via Firewire rather then
>>>>>>displaying
>>>>>>>>on screen!?!?!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW: I love your products its just that its so
close
>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>one of the coolest programs around!......Almost
there!
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>Arnar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>If you are talking about accelerated fx, then no
>>>>Vegas
>>>>>>>>does
>>>>>>>>>>not do this with other video cards. For external
>>>>>>monitor
>>>>>>>>>>w/o using a camera, we have been using the Sony
>>>>DVMCA2
>>>>>>>>>>Media converter with great success. At $300-ish,
>>its
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>pretty good deal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If your project, and your video, are DV, you can
>>run
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>video out to an external monitor via 1394 &
DVMCDA2-
>>
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>the cheapest, coolest, most versatile box we've
>>seen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Arnar Helgi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Basially what i am trying to understand is how
>>are
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>supposed to work with video in Vegas "VIDEO"!?!?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I realize that the capturing functions are cool
>>as
>>>>>>well
>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>>the video editing itself .....but how are you
>>>>>>supposed
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>see what you are doing!?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What i use Vegas for is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>I make all my music with a combination of
>>>>>>>>>>Acid/Soundforge/
>>>>>>>>>>>>and then i take the loops and sounds i have
made
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>compile and mix the actual song in Vegas and i
>>just
>>>>>>>>love
>>>>>>>>>>>>this combination for that and then i even cut
the
>>>>>>video
>>>>>>>>>>>>while i am making the soundtrack which is an
>>>>awesome
>>>>>>>>>>>>funtion that i have not been able to do in any
>>>>other
>>>>>>>>>>>>program!!!!! BUT what frustrates me is the fact
>>>>that
>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>>>to see the video on an external JVC screen I
have
>>>>and
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>dont understand how i am supposed to do that!?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>So....what i need to know is this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Is there anybody out there that is doing the
same
>>>>>>thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>with results!?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Is there anybody at Sonicfoundry that can tell
me
>>>>how
>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>>>do this and i am not talking about connecting
via
>>>>>>>>>>firewire
>>>>>>>>>>>>to a dv camera to a screen as that does not
>>>>>>accelerate
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>playback as well as the fact that i cant always
>>>>have
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>camera plugged in when i am working....Please
>>tell
>>>>me
>>>>>>>>how
>>>>>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>>>>can sort this out as i will buy the stuff
needed
>>>>its
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>that I have to get this working or i will have
to
>>>>>>start
>>>>>>>>>>>>using Premiere and i would just hate that!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Arnar
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Arnar Helgi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I need some info on what card i can use to
>>>>>>accelerate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PLAYBACK of Video in vegas Video!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Im not interested in the capture functions as
i
>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Matrox RT200 Card for t