playback freezing

rik wrote on 1/15/2020, 4:37 AM

Hi, i use VP17.

I play & cut my videofiles direct on the timeline for editing.

Meanwhile herefore watching the small videopreview on draft (half) within vegaspro, thus not on a second screen.

My pc uses at such a moments 10% cpu power and 35% memory average.

But i do get many annoying hangs/stutters on the playback preview.(i stop the playback to get rid of it)

But which slows down my workprogress consistently.

What do you advice me to do to get rid of this problem?

Comments

Marcin wrote on 1/15/2020, 6:16 AM

Write file type resolution? and how is your computer.

 

rik wrote on 1/15/2020, 6:31 AM

Hi Marcin.

I use a mix of 2x 4K (proxies), 1 HD & 4 mp3's tracks.

my pc:

  • win10
  • intel I7 - 8700 cpu - 3.2 ghz
  • 16 gb ram
  • nvidia gtx1050

grtz

Marcin wrote on 1/15/2020, 6:52 AM

1.Try enabled or discabled Nvidia GPU and support
Options->Preferences->File I/O
Enable Hardware Decoding for supported formats on
Hardware Decoding to Use NVIDIA NVDEC or Intel QSV


2. Options->Preferences->Video
GPU acceleration of video processing:
Intel HD or Nvidia

3. Options->Preferences->General
Enable QSV Encoding and Decoding (where available), try turning it off

Perform each action one at a time and see if it helped

What is your graphics card usage during playback?
Is the monitor connected to the Nvidia graphics card or to Intel?

 

j-v wrote on 1/15/2020, 8:26 AM

But first of all, before disabling the Nvidia for hardware acceleration and/or decoding, install the latest Nvidia Studio driver from their site :

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rik wrote on 1/15/2020, 9:52 AM

1.Try enabled or discabled Nvidia GPU and support
Options->Preferences->File I/O
Enable Hardware Decoding for supported formats on
Hardware Decoding to Use NVIDIA NVDEC or Intel QSV


2. Options->Preferences->Video
GPU acceleration of video processing:
Intel HD or Nvidia

3. Options->Preferences->General
Enable QSV Encoding and Decoding (where available), try turning it off

Perform each action one at a time and see if it helped

What is your graphics card usage during playback?
Is the monitor connected to the Nvidia graphics card or to Intel?

 

Ok, i'll check/try it out

- I do not know how to monitor my gpu usage during playback, do i need some sort of software for this?

- my monitor is connected to the nvidia card

thnx

 

 

rik wrote on 1/15/2020, 9:54 AM

But first of all, before disabling the Nvidia for hardware acceleration and/or decoding, install the latest Nvidia Studio driver from their site :

Thnx j-v. I do have the latest nvidia driver for my gpu. But i do not know what the "nvidia studio driver" is...i read it's for notebooks?

rik wrote on 1/15/2020, 9:56 AM

- How do i set the dynamic ram preview at his best?

- How many rendering threads do i choose best?

- Does it matter if my videocontent to edit from, is on an external usb drive or C-drive?

j-v wrote on 1/15/2020, 10:14 AM

- How do i set the dynamic ram preview at his best?

Depends on the fact if you use that option here


If you don't use this option, it can be set to 0

- How many rendering threads do i choose best?

Your CPU is good enough to use the default 32

- I do not know how to monitor my gpu usage during playback, do i need some sort of software for this?

Rightclick the taskbar and choose task manager/performance

But i do not know what the "nvidia studio driver" is...i read it's for notebooks?

That's the driver the Vegas developpers has adviced to use for Vegas users with such a card as you have and the newest driver is 441.66

- Does it matter if my videocontent to edit from, is on an external usb drive or C-drive?

The best is internal not being :/C, but a second HDD will do.
I always use one HDD for reading the sourcefiles and another for render to.
I don't have on laptop a second HDD, but there I render to a partition on my SSD other than :/C.

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Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

fred-w wrote on 1/15/2020, 4:08 PM

@rik Some have reported good response with RAM Preview set to 1/3 of total system RAM... e.g.: 32 gigs system ram, use 10 GB for RAM Preview.

@j-v The "Studio Driver" is developed by Nvidia, not Vegas (you probably know that) . Nvidia offers the latest iteration RTX driver in two "flavors": one for Gamers, and the other for Creators ('Studio' driver). You choose the "studio" version in the download page from Nvidia, in a drop down menu.

j-v wrote on 1/15/2020, 4:45 PM

@fred-w

I was referrig to this statement a half year ago:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/seems-vegas-has-moved-more-towards-nvidia-over-amd-why--116727/?page=1#ca726483

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

rik wrote on 1/17/2020, 4:30 AM

@rik Some have reported good response with RAM Preview set to 1/3 of total system RAM... e.g.: 32 gigs system ram, use 10 GB for RAM Preview.
 

 

Hi Fred, i already tried this, doesn't seem to make any difference really

 

rik wrote on 1/17/2020, 4:36 AM

Now that it seems i have enough headroom left on CPU, ram memory, gpu. Preview at draft. Changed, disabled or enabled certain preferencesHave everything up-to-date....what can cause this stutter?

It seems to occur be especially when edit/play a 4K file...although i have proxies on.

I also do notice 100% usage of the external usb drive (where the videofiles are on)

j-v wrote on 1/17/2020, 5:14 AM

I also do notice 100% usage of the external usb drive (where the videofiles are on)

Wrong place to have those kind of files in a project.

 

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)