Please, some gracious soul, help me.

thomaskay wrote on 10/14/2004, 8:36 AM
I'm about to pull my hair out. Here is the scenario (one I've been dealing with but I've narrowed it to a specific action.

Throughout the footage that I had to work with, I would make snapshots of different frames to use as stills. Some I have used in a slide show at the end of my video. They work fine. I drag them to desired length and fade with scanned jpg's, whatever.

There are three instances where I can't get rid of the jitter. They each happen when I am in full motion and then stop on a frame, and then continue. When I stop, the frame is jittery. Same parameters as the stills that I grabbed and used in the ending slide show, but these are jittery.

My method: I just cut on the frame where I wanted the frame to stop - drag it for the desired length and then resumed the video.

When I render. SS=3, MB=2. Everything - still, slow mo...looks fine except these three stills.

PROBLEM: The way that I'm stopping on these frames is a style that I like alot. It's that trick you've seen a million times before - motion then stop to make the person look cool. I have to be able to do this.

I'll do anything - FTP my files, mail them. I don't care. I'll accomodate. But I'm out of ideas.

Thanks,

Thomas

Activated:
Loop
Maintain Aspect Ratio
Reduce Interlace Flicker
Force Resample

Comments

jetdv wrote on 10/14/2004, 8:50 AM
Have you tried deinterlacing those three photos in your photo editor?
mark2929 wrote on 10/14/2004, 9:07 AM

Hi-Thomaskay

What I would do is, Deinterlace the Whole segment before beginning work on Anything... Preferably using After Effects and Magic Bullet ...Failing that Use Frame Blend In Vegas and render it out.... Then Re-import iNTO Your Media Bin.... Right Click set it to Progressive.... When its Up on the Timeline Making sure the View Screen is set to Its Best Full Setting then take your Snapshot !

hOPE This helps
thomaskay wrote on 10/14/2004, 2:40 PM
"What I would do is, Deinterlace the Whole segment before beginning work on Anything"

Do you mean just to deinterlace the captured stills that are not working? Can I not deinterlace with Vegas... Preferably using After Effects and Magic Bullet. I don't have After Effects.

"Failing that Use Frame Blend In Vegas and render it out.... "

Render it out to what format? Mpeg, AVI?

Thanks for your time.

Thomas
thomaskay wrote on 10/14/2004, 2:44 PM
Have you tried deinterlacing those three photos in your photo editor?

This deinterlacing is new for me. I have unchecked in Vegas, did a small render of that section - tried to play it on the external monitor with no change. To clairify, I unchecked reduce interlace flicker. That's not the same thing as deinterlacing, is it?

Thanks for your time.
TeeJay wrote on 10/14/2004, 4:54 PM
Not sure if this'// help, but I was having a lot of trouble with jitters and horizontal barring when Pan/Cropping and it was really doing my head in, until I discovered SUPERSAMPLING!

This has changed my life......well, maybe not my life, but it has definately sorted out all of my problems.:)

Access Supersampling by right clicking on the Video Master track and Insert Video Supersampling, then raise the Envelope/line to a level that smooths out your problem.

It's important to note that Supersampling is very labour intensive on your system and dramatically increases rendering times, so only use it where required and you may not need to have it up full. I've found excellent results at about 5.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

TeeJay
mark2929 wrote on 10/14/2004, 9:51 PM
Hi Thomaskay

If you are working on a clip then you have it on the Timeline A Segment Is a Word I used to Describe the area in question that you wish to take stills from

OK

yOU Have a clip on the Timeline which contains the area you want to take A picture

First in the top left corner of Vegas where it says FILE Click on that and scroll down to properties... Click on that .....Check your FIELD ORDER is correct usually would be lower field first...fURTHER down You will see DEINTERLACE METHOD Click on the Blue V Sign and a menu will show BLEND FIELDS Click on that..... Click OK.....

Go back to your Clip on the Timeline Hover over the clip and right click ...Scroll down to Properties... In the top left cOrner there are two Options Click on Media... Make sure your Field order is the same as the Project Properties... Come out of the Menu... Go to file in the top left corner of Vegas Scroll down to Render as>>>> Where it says SAVE AS TYPE.... I would choose Video For Windows And beneath where it says Template I would choose Uncompressed...(I would choose this because there is no loss of Quality However it is a Big File size ) Render By Clicking Save...

Re-Import CLIP..

When the Clip is on the timeline Right Click.. Scroll down to Properties ..Choose Media in the two options at the top...... In FIELD ORDER Press Progressive..... Vegas will Now treat that ONE clip as Progressive

Go to your PREVIEW Window click PREVIEW Scroll down to BEST (FULL) Go to the Little icon on the far right (Save Snapshot to File) Take your Pictures...

iM In a rush so Hope I have Not made any Mistakes here... Someone else will Hopefully Step in

Best of Luck

Arco wrote on 10/15/2004, 6:32 AM
..if all else fails..

You can go to the end of your 'motion' video and find a clear, in focus frame, save that frame as jpeg(click the save button in the preview window) and then load it into the timeline at that exact spot. size the still as you normally would.

i'm not sure what resolution issues this may bring up but the effect works.