Hmmm. I don't know if there are licensing issues or not. It seems like everyone and their brother in the photo editing world has Photoshop plugin support. Also, it seems like the more software that supports the plugin specs, the more likely people will see it as a standard and write for it, which would be in Adobe's best interest. Useing those arguments I would say that it would be free or very cheap to license.

But, then (with Photoshop plugins) it's not actually everyone that supports those plugins. Usually the only the software with advanced capabilities. So that would be fairly good argument that it might be licensed.

And in reality, I would imagine a trip over to Adobe's web site might have helped prevent all of this speculation. But, oh well. It's written now. Might as well post it.

JBJones

Currently i'm working on adding AfterFX plugin support to Vegas.

- Satish

Yeah :-)

Are you working on this for Sonic Foundry or just for your own enjoyment? I'm just curious. It seems like After Effects support should be something high on Sonic Foundry's list of things to do. So their best programers should be on the job or at least someone in house with access to the Vegas source code. Unless of course, you are one of their best programmers. :)

JBJones

My guess is that a lot of what we like about Vegas and causes it to excel over the others would be compromised by adapting to other models. BTW, have you all checked out the coming verson 2 of Pixelan spicemaster. Looks like a killer.

Satish is one of their best programmmers. He just doesn't work for them!

I am not trying out this for SoFo, just on my own.

Actually, looks like early February for the Vegas version

Satish,

Do you know if anyone is working on OMF export for those of us who occasionally send projects over to a Pro Tools session? As you know Automatic Duck created a OMF plug-in for Final Cut Pro.

Thanks for your thoughts
Marion

No i am not in touch with anyone working on OMF export for Vegas. I'm having a look at the OMF documents now and let me see if it is possible for me to do something ...

Thanks

There is a project on Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aaf/
They have an OMF-to-AAF conversion utility, with source. Perhaps backwards too.
I'm not in need of this, neither am interested in more details. Just happened to stumble on it.
I'll be looking into 'bins' import/export - one of the features I wanted in VV. It can be done with scripting, and that's fine with me.

Alexei

I'm curious. I don't know much about using ProTools, but what would OMF export provide once you got on the ProTools system? How would it be used in a project?

JBJones

To the question of why Pro-Tools:
My company does programming for the Food Network and PBS. Due to the nature of our shows small cameras (ie: DVCAM) have been our trademark.

We used to have to bump all the DV footage to Beta SP or 3/4 to edit on Avid MediaComposers. Now we use DV Express 3.5 and export an OMF to our sound designer who uses Pro-Tools and then outputs a OMF file which we layback to the video in a Avid Symphony session where we output a master on NETWORK required 4 ch Digi-Beta.

I LOVE VV4 and would love to move our editing to this platform but I stll have to output an OMF to our sound designer. One reason is he then has handles (extra in and out audio at each sound edit) which allow him to shift the edit and/or fade in any direction to meet his specs.

I then have to bring it back into the Symphony to finish in Digi-Beta.

If I just give him an AIF file he is limited in his "artistry".

Hope this illuminates why I need OMF export. Thanks>>> Marion

That helps with my question about the OMF a little. But also, I'm wondering what the OMF tells the sound designer.

Is it just saying that there is a cut here, here, and here, in the video stream? It seems to me that when designing a sound track, most work would be done while watching the video feed. Is the OMF file basicly just a text file with time information or does it include the audio tracks?

I haven't had to work on projects where the audio and video were edited on differenty systems. So, I'm just wondering how much information is usually communicated by this OMF file.

Thanks,
JBJones

JB,
Usually the editor burns a CD with the OMF file which tags and moves the audio media onto the CD with the "handles" I spoke of which allow the sound dsigner some extra leeway in the mix.

An Avid user group or Pro-Tools group could give you more indepth information.

http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/disp.fcgi?dire=4&prog=displaywwugindex.fcgi&endday=7&forum=avid_xpress

best,
Marion