I've now updated my system with a Delta 1010 soundcard and an ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro video card. And NO IRQ conflicts at ALL!!!! Install went perfect. In win98se I never had this kind of ease of use/stability. And with the same exact system too. Don't be afaid to upgrade to XP. I have XP Pro because I'll be purchasing a dual processor system in a bit.

I do agree win98se was GREAT for its time and the audio drivers were awesome BUT that was then and this is now.

Get XP.

Ed.

Stusy, what of the video portion of the software do you need to turn off? Except for a few entries in the pull down menus, very little "video stuff" is even apparent unless you choose to include it in the project. There are probably as many "audio only" widgets and menus on the screen that you don't use as there are video things. Just don't click on anything you don't want to use.

Like you, i didn't want to leave 98SE. I've only upgraded to XP through necessity: several new software upgrades i wanted or needed to use don't support 98SE anymore. I really don't have any use for the features of XP over 98SE, but the choice was eventually taken out of my hands. This is total speculation, but i would guess that by the time Vegas 6, SoundForge 8, and Acid 6 come out (possibly even before), SonicFoundry will have abandoned 98SE as well. I know as of about a year ago the majority of their customer base were still using 98SE, but i can't imagine that's true anymore.

I'll reassure you though, i've got Vegas 4 running on both XP and 98SE. It runs very well on both.

<<I do agree win98se was GREAT for its time and the audio drivers were awesome BUT that was then and this is now.
Get XP.>>

Absolutely!!!!!

drbam

A few months back a SOFO tech posted on one these forums that he wished everyone would move to XP. Since my primary apps are all SOFO, that comment really got my attention and I finally upgraded. I didn't change anything in my system except going from 98se to XP (on a new but identical system drive) and the increased performance and stability has been nothing short of amazing! I've been keeping the 98se drive with all my apps installed "just in case." I doubt I'll be needing it. . .

drbam

Maybe stusy needs help on the "View | Toolbars" menu to get rid of the video window ?

geoff

Or just click the [X] icon in the upper left corner of the video preview pane.

I think you'd better do what the rest of the guys are saying; ditch win98se. There's no point in running it. Also, as long as you don't import video tracks, you won't be harmed by Vegas' video portion.

The automation and ASIO support really got me hooked on Vegas 4, but I still have a few stability issues, so I haven't quite made the transition yet. I recommend you to do the same.

And, you're in no way a devil's advocate. You just don't make very muck sense at times.

I'd like to try replying in a stusy sort of way:
"I'm moving to an Atari 1040 ST and Vegas doesn't support that but it should and in Nashville its hard getting a recording contract to support MIDI these days"

Now that should stir things up a bit.

LOL

Is it further to New York or by bus?

I've not updated to V4 yet but in V3 there's no problem clicking all the little 'x's to make most vestiges of video disappear. I assume it's the same in V4.

mo

Oct 2001 I got the XP upgrade, and things went fine even with old apps, soundcard and printer; went to various sites if I had to, and great...however, Jan and Feb 2002 I was in XP hell, had an inhouse tech visit, changed from P3 to Athlon, mobo, etc..nothing...major, major black screen of death...total shutdown...can't even remember the mess now, microsoft was worthless, finally took it to a local computer guy, couldn't figure it out, and basically rebuilt everything with a clean install of 98SE, and SOFO is the only music app now...did have (and still do) sonar 131, but I'm totally SOFO now...folks, I tell ya, #1..? if I did it again, I'd wait till about now, and get a clean install, and then, maybe look at another soundcard besides my Emagic AW2 (which is still rock solid and fine for what I do), but you know...I still, still have a very bad feeling about XP, and even the local boys STILL don't recommend it for what I do here...strictly small time, and P4 is too expensive...I don't know, maybe I can work a swap with the local boys, but I just really have to stick with 98SE...I mean it was just a mess for me and my family...Scott Reams or daw.com or any of a half dozen other places I know make them, and that might be an option also...but for now, put me down as one of the millions of consumers/prosumers that are just fed up with "progress"...

So updates aren't progress then, Hmmmm. Interesting. I didn't know that.

OK, I've got you down as one who is fed up with progress. Just don't complain if you don't.

Stusy says;
"an inhouse tech visit, changed from P3 to Athlon, mobo, etc..nothing...major, major black screen of death...total shutdown..."

If this motherboard swap was done without removing every device in Device Manager just prior to shutdown before the swap, this can cause the symptoms you describe, driver conflicts, BSOD's and even failure to boot-up.

If all the devices had been removed first, upon initial boot-up with the new motherboard, Windows would find all new hardware and install all new drivers for it.

A clean install of XP rather than 98 SE would have produced excellent results.

The results you experienced were most likely user error and not OS error.

MJ

Oh, I've no doubt it could very well be user error, but I'm no longer a cockeyed optimist when it comes to computers like I used to be, in fact, I'm a casualty of falling into the trap of getting the latest and greatest, further, there are days when I really could care less, and not that far from just sayin to hell with computers in general..! they've certainly proved to be a thorn to the music industry...

Kind of like,

"When I drive a car and I jerk the wheel to the right, I keep crashing into trees! I'm going to stay with walking, that new fangle stuff is ruining transportation."

MJ

Every error has an explanation and a solution. It's just a matter of time, talent and effort.

A clean format with WinXP and a prompt installation of SP1 would do the trick for Vegas 4.

We'll see...

>>I'm a casualty of falling into the trap of getting the latest and greatest

So then, why are you so gung-ho about updates?

I'm just curious; I'm not trying to piss anyone off.

Doug

Good for the prosumer, good for the company...how can it not be...? for me it's better than a trip to Dairy Queen for a cone...! a good way of catchin "bugs" is to sweeten the deal, certainly not to dissuade customers casting demeaning, deleterious aspersions and chastising their wishes/dreams/hopes/likes...

Man, what are you talking about?!

Do you ever feel like you're having a conversation with someone but you've been left out of about 10 minutes of the conversation and then that someone comes back and says something and you have no idea what they're talking about?

Its like when I went past the trees and the 2.4 processor was muddling towards the chainsaw. I overcame it but what the hell, two times is better than four any day.