Possible reason/fix, opening project slow and timeline freezes [VP17]

VELTEN wrote on 9/4/2019, 4:58 AM

I've been having 90 seconds long wait times when opening VP17 projects and when I zoom out on the timeline it just freezes for multiple minutes.

I finally found something that might have worked for me, I disabled "thumbnails to show video events" under the video tab in the settings. Now my project loads in 5 seconds, this wasn't a problem with VP16 so I assume this is a bug.

I hope Magix can solve this by the next version.

Just for reference

My pc: 3900x, 2080ti, Samsung m.2 970 evo.

Files: 2560x1440 60p 50 mbps

Settings: The stuff that can be set to gpu acc, is enabled. 4096mb dynamic ram.

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j-v wrote on 9/4/2019, 5:09 AM

I hope Magix can solve this by the next version.

Maybe they give you first the possibility to try Dyn. RAM set to 0 or to the default 200.😉

VELTEN wrote on 9/4/2019, 6:37 AM

I hope Magix can solve this by the next version.

Maybe they give you first the possibility to try Dyn. RAM set to 0 or to the default 200.😉

Tried it ;)

No difference when at 0MB (auto) or 200MB, also tried 10240mb, 2048mb, 6144mb.

Again no difference for the problem I had.

Like I said in the post this was not a problem in VP16, hense why I hope they can fix this bug by the next version(VP17 version/update)

matthias-krutz wrote on 9/4/2019, 6:46 AM

The load times on my current project look like this:
VP16 20 sec, but not all thumbnails are built yet.
VP17 20 sec without TL thumbnails 200MB RAM
22 sec without TL thumbnails 0 MB RAM
60 sec with TL thumbnails

VELTEN wrote on 9/4/2019, 6:55 AM

The load times on my current project look like this:
VP16 20 sec, but not all thumbnails are built yet.
VP17 20 sec without TL thumbnails 200MB RAM
22 sec without TL thumbnails 0 MB RAM
60 sec with TL thumbnails

Tbh didn't know thumbnails had this of a huge effect before today, the project I was working on was just freezing all the time(apparently) because of the thumbnails.

Since I made this post I finished the project and there was only one time my timeline froze (VP17 stopped responding) and this seems to be because the file I was working with at the time was lossless so it froze for a sec.

But like I said in the post, my previous experience with VP16 it never behaved like VP17 does for me(with thumbnails on)

redpaw wrote on 9/4/2019, 6:56 AM

@j-v i also tried the different dyn. RAM settings and it made no difference.. the only way to have it loading fast (or sometimes at all - if there's more then 2-3hrs of footage on the timeline it sometimes just crashes... if lucky just freezes for a while) is as @VELTEN said to dissable the thumbnails... which is really really annoying.

v16 works fine (no matter the ram settings) , and for now it's where i have to start the projects

Dexcon wrote on 9/4/2019, 7:07 AM

@VELTEN

You are not alone with the thumbnails problem. It was raised not long after VP17's release almost a month ago. If you do a forum Search using the keyword 'thumbnails' limited to the last month, you'll find lots of hits such as:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/a-few-questions-for-the-developers--116531/#ca724784

You are right … hopefully it will be resolved in the next build of VP17.

VELTEN wrote on 9/4/2019, 7:13 AM

@redpaw @Dexcon Glad to see I am not the only one experiencing this and that there is at least a workaround, but yes like you said @redpaw it is quite annoying.

j-v wrote on 9/4/2019, 7:57 AM

I think you all open a project by doubleclicking or rightclicking a veg.
Due to more reasons (also in the past) I always start Vegas by clicking the Vegas startbutton and after the start open a project.
There I don't see any difference in starting time of VPro 17 with "o" or "all" thumbnails selected. My startingtime of VPro 17 is always 11 sec.,exactly the same as VP15 and 16.

Dexcon wrote on 9/4/2019, 8:12 AM

@VELTEN ... just for future reference, I think that the 'The Solution' option is intended to be assigned to the person who provided the solution unless, of course, the OP provided their own solution.

Dexcon wrote on 9/4/2019, 8:19 AM

@j-v ... just my experience … it doesn't seem to matter from where I open a veg project - outside or from within VP (any version) - load time is always about the same.