Grazie,

thank you!
I am downloading it just now - will see.

Regards from Vienna
Johannes

Hi again!

I downloaded and installed PresetManager without problem.

But how does ist work?
After starting the program I see two empty parts: On the upper half of the window there ist "Preset Package", in the lower half there is "System Presets".
As far as I understand the Help-File my Vegas Presets should be visible under "System Presets" and can be transfered from there to the "Preset Package". But my Presets do NOT show under "System Presets", pressing F5 (refresh) does nothing. The "System Presets" is completely EMPTY.

What am I missing here? Please Help.
Thank you
Johannes

You have to create a chain containing those presets before the Preset Manager can find it. It will find the chains - not the individual presets.

Ed-Can you go into Vegas and move presets into a chain or package and then move them back out (or into new packages) in the new installation?

I'm thinking maybe just for speed's sake Johannes can throw everything into one chain or package.

Rob Mack

Simply moving the chain to your system using the Preset Manager moves all the individual presets to the proper place.

OK, thank you. I will try this.
Johannes

Hi again!

I tried it and I have learned:

>>>Simply moving the chain to your system using the Preset Manager moves all the individual presets to the proper place. <<<

Sorry, but that does not work this way.
What gets saved and restored is the complete chain with all parts within the chain with all settings. But the individual Presets are NOT saved and restored.

What I did to test:

Within EventFX I added "Add Noise" to the chain. Then I set the wanted parameters for the FX and save it with the name MyAddNoise. Then I create a package out of this chain.
Next I start PresetManager and there I find my new Package under System Presets. I copy this to Preset Package and save it to a file.
Now back to Vegas and there I delete the Preset "MyAddNoise" and I delete the Package.
Then using PresetManager I restore the Package to the System Presets.
Again to Vegas and there I again find the Package with the Add Noise FX with the parameters I have set - OK fine. But the individual Preset "MyAddNoise" is NOT there - so it went lost on this way.
Of course, it can be recreated from the Package.

I hope I could make clear what happens.
Is this the way it works or did I make something wrong?

Johannes

Add the chain to an event, pull up each of the individual pieces, save them under the new correct name.

OK - everything clear now!
Thank you
Johannes

What did I say J, "It takes a bit of getting used to . .. I found it odd, " ? Correction - REALLY odd! :-)

Grazie

Grazie,
you are right!

But I think there is an easier way to save Presets, especially if you have a lot of individual Presets not within Packages.
You can simply store it in a Vegas project file!
It should work this way:
Create a new project which will only be used to store Presets. If you want to save a preset simply put it into this project. E.g. if you want to save a Title Preset put that title into the project. The Preset name can be stored under the events properties.

If at some time you want to restore this presets (e.g. new installation of Vegas) you open this special project and call up the effect with the Preset. There you only need to type in the name and click save.

If you have more complex chains and Packages then PresetManager would do a better job.

Regards
Johannes

Excellent Idea! - I'll give it a go .. . You have a similar "sideways" view to Vegas . . you will do very well with this NLE. Vegas is just so bleedin' felible, you can try stuff on the fly and then move on.

Presently I'm using PTT to layoff tiny sections of tricky complex text treatments. ALSO, having another instance of Vegas open and using this to do some of the experiments while I continue on the "main" event in the other instance/itteration.

Question: When is a Preset not a Preset? When it is a "Package" and not a Preset BUT/AND within something called Preset Manager too !!! Hah-hah! :)

HAve you seen JetDV website? On it is a pace for us to share Presets? . .'ere yah goes:

http://thetroxels.com/vegas/forum/

. .and yes, great idea J! . .. Great stuff . .

Grazie

Thank You!

To your question:
I think a Preset is simply a named "setting" for a single effect. This can be a Title-Setting, Gradient-Setting, FX-Setting, etc. For ONE of these you set the parameters and store that setting under a name so that you can remember and recall it. This Presets are NOT covered by PresetManager but this is it what I often use.

A Package is something like a "wrapper" around a chain of effect settings that also gets identified by a name you can set. As long as you have only one effect within the chain I can see no advantage for using Packages except that PresetManager only covers packages and not Presets. The Package stores all parameters of each individual effect within the chain but not the name of the Preset. So, if you want to get back your individual Presets out of a Package you have to do analog to what I described with using a project file for this purpose (and you cannot use the properties for storing the Preset name).

Does that answer your question?
Johannes

.. oh yes - it does indeed, it does indeed . . . . . ironic? No? . .ok.

Grazie

Thank you, I now understand Plugin Packages. I have always wanted the ability to save complete FX chains, but for some reason was never able to connect the dot on how to do it in Vegas. It is great now that I can create FX packages and simply drop them from the Vegas Plugin Manager window onto events.