Seeing the same thing in even V7, any audio FXs on the audio bus, especially the iZotopes ones, really introduce a lot of variable delay.
The internal and external preview runs many frames apart and I can't trust either to judge sync. Thankfully I don't have to.

Bob.

Have you tried "Sync offset frames" for getting the external monitor synched-in? I'm thinking there has to be a reason why this feature has been around for a long time? Before Vegas 5 even?

I guess you all must have tried it, and that this feature isn't doing what you want? Or this this something else?

Grazie

it looks like my old external preview issue.
Never repro by Sony so don’t expect a fix…
Anyway, you should contact tech support.

Oh! I thought this was about out of synch audio?

OK, well no BLUE screen here. But I do get a very very small delay from Trimmer. Scrubbing in Trimmer, I'm using the SINGLE frame Preview within Trimmer it goes:

Trimmer >then> Internal Preview >then> External Preview

It is a very very tiny delay . . . I also get this directly from the main timeline. Internal Preview is One frame in advance iof the External Preview.

Is this so bad? Are we saying that this was immediate/instantaneous on the previous incarnations of Vegas? Maybe a faster PC would do it nearer to what is being called for?

It was Bob's reference to trusting the sync that made me concentrate/concerned about the audio synch.

But no, Rosebud, no blue screen here. And after you made a reference to this previous post of yours I remembered the issue.

Grazie

That'll compensate for the fixed delay through the A/D converter.
Problem I get is it all starts out OK and then drifts out of sync. This is in V7, haven't tested this with V8 as the machine I'm running it on doesn't have ASIO audio drivers or a decent sound card and the one that does runs Win2K and V8 don't run on Win2K.

I'm not complaining, I know what's wrong. This PC is woefully under resourced, an old P4 with only 512MB of RAM. But no problem with V4, V5 or V6. After V6 the amount of grunt needed went up and up and if your hardware didn't keep up the wheels and cogs get a bit squeaky.

Bob.

I'm not complaining, I know what's wrong.

Sounded like you were, Bob? Why didn't you say what you thought was wrong?

Grazie

Complain? Moi? Never!

However I just went and tested all this on my V8 system.
It don't work, I mean like it looks like something is really broken.
Open clip in trimmer and hit Play. Nothing happens on internal preview, it just displays where the T/L cursor is parked and nothing goes at to the external preview device either. But the audio plays out.

Now scrub the trimmer and it works as expected, vision goes to both internal and external preview, wierd.

External preview works 100% OK from the T/L.

For what it's worth this is on a Core Duo 2.4GHz PC, 1GB of RAM. Video is coming off a firewire drive and the VCR which is being used as the A/D converter is on the same firewire port. Source material is 16:9 SD PAL.

So there must be something wierd in V8.0a, I remember testing this when V8.0 first came out because I thing someone (Grazie?) asked what we thought about the new preview inside the trimmer window and it worked then. Even that doesn't work no more. Bugger!

Bob.

EDIT:
Went back and tried this on the exact same everything in V7, works perfectly.

Sorry I wasn't clear on my original post: it's not an A/V sync issue, it's that nothing comes out the external monitor for several seconds. (Not just a tiny delay, but a pretty consistent 2s delay, which makes doing any kind of scrubbing around a second or less impossible).

I submitted a problem to customer support 11 days ago - not a peep other than their "we received your request" mail.

It's unfortunate that so many people seem to be having this and sony's mum on it. I'll test on one other machine, but it looks like I'm returning my copy of vegas 8.

As you've hopefully noticed I've found a much worse situation, in V8.0a the vision just doesn't playout at all from the trimmer. Scrubbing works perfectly and the audio always plays out.

So I have to agree with you there does seem to be a problem.
Probably it works perfectly for some.
For users like yourself it sorta works.
For some users like myself it doesn't work at all.

And yes, I agree, would be nice if SCS were a little more open about problems.
I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet though. I'm certain this will get fixed.

Bob.

Sorry guys. . . .

I've now experimented with V6d and VP8a. From Trimmer to ExtMon I am getting the same small delay from a standing start. It's about 3>4 seconds. Nothing more and nothing less. When I scrub from within Trimmer it is instantaneous. When I play from Timeline it is instantaneous.

So, as I DID have this in V6 maybe I've adapted my editing to take account of it.

Grazie

Interesting
As I said in the other thread, it should occur with media not matching to project properties.

Rob, what are your project properties ?
Please, can you update your support request and tell to Sony there is another users having this issue ( my support request reference is “061003-000018”).
Sony never repro this issue, but I really doubt they ever made the needed tests.

I checked this at home yesterday with various footage on an NTSC DV timeline. What I saw was about a 2 second delay when I first started playing out to my ADVC100 and then afterwards everything played immediately.

I assumed that Vegas had to open a connection to the device when it was first used. I think there are prefs related to that but I haven't really looked yet.

The ADVC100 was the only 1394 device connected to the PC at the time.

Rob Mack