Problem with Input Monitoring

thomaskay wrote on 4/22/2004, 9:23 PM
When I use input monitoring, I am getting a doubling (of the voice) effect. Racking my brains but can't seem to figure out how to correct it. When I monitor through my board, I get just the one of me. Can anyone point me to the button I am supposed to uncheck?

As a side note, I am back to Vegas as my audio choice. Long live.

Thanks,

Thomas

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PipelineAudio wrote on 4/22/2004, 11:57 PM
Kill whatever is Y cording your hardware. Whatever you were using before to hear your input is no longer necessary.

If it sounds echo-ey tho, your latency is probably too high, it should sound phasey
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 8:25 AM
"Kill whatever is Y cording your hardware."

I'm not sure what that means, but if you mean monitoring via my mixer, that is not in play when I do input monitoring. I just used the mixer example to demonstrate that I had isolated the problem within the software.

It does sound phasey. I'm trying to correct that. Somewhere a second signal is being processed and I don't know where.

I use the RME Hammerfall card. My latency is 12ms.

Thomas
Rednroll wrote on 4/23/2004, 9:00 AM
On your RME card you probably have the input monitoring enabled, therefore your hearing both the input monitor from the soundcard driver and the input monitoring switch from Vegas. You should turn the input monitoring of the sound card off, and let Vegas handle the switching the input monitoring when you record enable a track.

Another possibility is that if you have the input monitoring just set to ON, it will monitor both the input and the track at the same time during playback. If you don't want that, then just set the input monitoring to "auto", and then it will function like an auto-input punch-in scenario operation.
PipelineAudio wrote on 4/23/2004, 9:06 AM
I have RME stuff as well, 2 HDSP 9652's and 3 ADI DS's. You should be using setting number one on your Totalmix.

Or make a custom setting where all the ins are set to - infinity and save that one as your "Software monitoring "setup

Number three is a great setting for when you give up on using vegas to input monitor or when the system demands get too high. Just be sure spdif is set to - infinity on input
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 9:54 AM
I don't have the DSP RME, so there is no TotalMix.
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 9:58 AM
RME card is not set to input monitoring. I'm using the ASIO driver as opposed to the MME. On my card, it only has a box to check for MME monitoring.

I have Input monitoring set to auto for this example. Thing is, the same thing happens in Cubase so it has to be a global setting, wouldn't it?

Maybe I'll just direct monitor and be done with it. I'd like to know the answer, though. Thanks for the suggestions.

Thomas
Rednroll wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:04 AM
I still think, you have some kind of input monitoring enabled on your Sound Card and I'm not familiar with the RME card to assist you. This should be easy enough to figure out. Just close Vegas or any other app out, then play an input signal to your sound card. Can you hear the input signal out the speakers? You shouldn't be able too, and that's where your problem lies.
PipelineAudio wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:37 AM
If you are using a non DSP hammerfall, then there is no spearate hardware path. Also vegas does not support direct monitoring.

There is either some sort of analog y cord going on here, or you have your signal routed to more than one thing in vegas. You have any fx on or other aux or other busses?
PipelineAudio wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:42 AM
Are you running vegas in MME? Try turning off "monitoring' on the hammerfall settings
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:21 PM
"I still think, you have some kind of input monitoring enabled on your Sound Card and I'm not familiar with the RME card to assist you. This should be easy enough to figure out. Just close Vegas or any other app out, then play an input signal to your sound card. Can you hear the input signal out the speakers? You shouldn't be able too, and that's where your problem lies. "


No. I believe I'm good on those points.
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:30 PM
"Also vegas does not support direct monitoring."

Right. I meant external monitoring.

Believe me. I have looked for any possible second signal. Because I have the ADI-8's I have a visual of signal inflow and outflow. No FX. No Busses. Weird. Everything I've ever troubled shot usually comes down to one thing left unchecked and I can't find it.
thomaskay wrote on 4/23/2004, 10:30 PM
"Are you running vegas in MME? Try turning off "monitoring' on the hammerfall settings "

ASIO.
Rednroll wrote on 4/24/2004, 9:18 AM
Try disabling all the track insert FX's on the input you are monitoring along with any insert FX's on the bus you are monitoring through. I've found in the past that sometimes having track inserts on that I get a flangy kind of monitor and I have disabled all my track FX's for tracks I record on.