Problem with Print Video to DV Tape ...

Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/21/2001, 6:45 PM

I'm playing with VV3 (unregistered) to see if I should switch from Premier 6. I captured five little clips and dropped them on the timeline with no transitions, effects or titles. When I try to "Print Video to DV Tape" it exports the color bars without a problem but as soon as it starts to process the video it says

An error occured while creating the media file.
An unexpected error has occured.

I get this error using either automatic or manual recording.

From the Capture Express window, under the Print to Tape tab, I can preview or export video clips (unprocessed) to the camera without a problem, so I don't think hardware is the issue.

Is this feature disabled in the unregistered version or am I doing something wrong?

- Jason

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AKAGraphix wrote on 11/21/2001, 9:21 PM

Hey Jason,

I switched to VV3 from Premiere. I love VV3. I had the same problem with the beta version that you are talking about but it occurred when trying to proccess a Video FX, namely, the Emboss FX. I removed that and it worked fine. Not too sure what you are experiencing but I know someone here will know. They have been great. Good luck.

Kevin

portman wrote on 11/24/2001, 2:24 AM

I had exactly the same problem. No fx, no filters, no nothin'- it just keeps coming up with the error you describe. It's very hard to know whether this is a bug or if it's just disabled in the demo. Also very hard to make a purchasing decision based on this error - I could be buying one giant bug.
It would be helpful if Sonic provided details of exactly what you can and can't do in the DEMO.

HPV wrote on 11/24/2001, 2:56 AM

Haven't done the demo, but I can tell you the beta of Vegas 3 is solid. I'll be upgrading soon.

Craig H.

portman wrote on 11/24/2001, 3:52 AM

I just wish someone from Sonic can clear this up soon as I'm keen to buy. I like to be sure before I part with my money.

Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/24/2001, 12:15 PM

Yeah, that's my feeling exactly. I even had my credit card out on the desk to buy and then I thought I'd better wait until this is resolved. I don't have the hard drive space to hold hundreds of hours of video so I NEED to be able to export finished projects back to tape.

CDM wrote on 11/24/2001, 1:55 PM

I've been using Vegas 3 since the beta and I can tell you it's pretty rock solid. Definitely the least buggy of all their releases. I use the Print To Tape from the timeline feature all the time. I did it with a two hour movie which needed lots of pre-rendering with no problems. You just need to be sure you have room on the Temp drive so it can create the .w64 audio file to stream with the video. If there are any filters or transitions it will need to pre-render those first and if it has to do more than 80% of the total length of the project it will warn you. You can also use the new Vid Cap tool, which has batch capture and batch print to tape, though I haven't tried the Batch Print yet...

Anyway, Vegas 3 is WELL worth the upgrade. Good luck.

CDM wrote on 11/24/2001, 1:58 PM

BTW, what's the Capture Express window?

Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/24/2001, 4:11 PM

It's the window that comes up when selecting video capture (or similar wording--I'm not looking at it now) from the file menu. It has the tab for capturing as well as for exporting. This application worked fine for exporting to the camera, but I could only do so with exactly the same clips I had captured.

portman wrote on 11/24/2001, 6:19 PM

The video sequence I attempted to print to tape from the timeline was only 2 mins long. I've got a 20Gb separate drive for storing video so it's not a free space issue.

pelvis wrote on 11/24/2001, 8:21 PM

have you set your print to tape format to conform to .avi DV (using one of the DV templates)? If you don't do this you'll run into problems.

portman wrote on 11/24/2001, 9:43 PM

I'm using the PAL DV template which is correct for my country.

Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/25/2001, 3:15 PM

Yes, from the Tools menu I select "Print Video to DV Tape" and then accept the standard NTSC DV template. Also, this is video that just moments earlier I captured from my DV camera, so there shouldn't be much or any conversion required to save it back out to the camera.

portman wrote on 11/25/2001, 5:56 PM

I don't think the problem is with the actual sending of video to the camera because it works fine from the capture window with an existing video file. The problem appears to be when VV3 builds the file from the timeline prior to sending to the camera.
The error is obviously not due to the type of template used either because it occurs with both the NTSC (see jabbott7 post) and PAL (myself) templates.

FadeToBlack wrote on 11/25/2001, 6:53 PM

portman wrote on 11/25/2001, 8:13 PM

In earlier posts it was mentioned that all we are trying to do is print to tape from a freshly captured small video clip with no effects, filters or anything else that might interfere with the process. If I drop the clip into the timeline without performing any other function and then go to print to tape, the error occurs. In other words it can't get any more basic than this.

FadeToBlack wrote on 11/25/2001, 8:50 PM

FadeToBlack wrote on 11/25/2001, 8:53 PM

Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/25/2001, 9:46 PM

In my case, working with NTSC, the camera is recording the bars and tone. Also, if I use the "Print to Tape" (or something) tab from the Capture Express application then it DOES successfully export to the camera. But so far as I can tell, that app only works with exactly the clips as I captured them. I need to export the timeline, which is where the failure occurs.

portman wrote on 11/25/2001, 9:47 PM

It prints the bars OK it just gives the error when writing the media file to hard disk.
I'm using PAL DV templates for everthing.
I'm using a separate 20 gb 7200 rpm Ultra 100 for the video files.
Also using Windows XP Home
Athlon 800
512 Mb Ram

FadeToBlack wrote on 11/25/2001, 10:00 PM

HPV wrote on 11/25/2001, 10:33 PM

What programs are running in the background ? Hit
CTRL-ALT-Delete and let us know what's running. You can use MSCONFIG to nuke everything but explorer (RUN-MSCONFIG-Selective startup-uncheck Load Startup Group Icons).
Also, you're system drive (& maybe your video drive) aren't set for DMA. It does sound like you're temp. rendered files are going to your system drive. That shouldn't be a problem, unless it's full or doesn't have DMA set. (Control panel-Settings-System-Device Manager-Disk Drives-right click drive name-properties-settings-DMA)
Check out what G.G. said about project properties to see where Vegas is rendering to.
Hang in there, Vegas DOES work as advertised.

Craig H.

portman wrote on 11/26/2001, 2:23 AM

I have DMA on.
I have a fresh install of win XP so the only things running are those needed to run windows. ie explorer.
My peferences for prerendering and temp files etc all point to my 20 gb video drive.
Premiere works fine with print to tape.
Media studio pro 6.5 Demo works fine with print to tape.
There's a lot to like about VV3 - that's why I'm thinking of changing from Premiere.
But I'm starting to think that maybe this is a problem associated with the DEMO. Unfortunately I don't want to spend $500 to find out it's not.

Mark

SonyEPM wrote on 11/26/2001, 9:01 AM

Hello- just jumping back on the forums after the long weekend.

Demo version does not support print to tape from the timeline. You shouldn't be getting that error message though- that could be a bug.

portman wrote on 11/26/2001, 2:44 PM

Thanks for that.
That gives me a bit more confidence in purchasing the full version!

May I suggest that in the DEMO versions that Sonic supply a readme or something which details what the DEMO can and can't do. It would save a lot of people from thinking that such a bug may be in the full version and also save a lot of unnecessary posts.

Mark