Production Monitor Questions

dale63 wrote on 12/17/2003, 7:41 PM
I'm in the market for a (NTSC) production monitor to hook-up to my new Dimension XPS in addition to a M992 PC monitor I already have--for post production work. I have the ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256mb with tv out and dvi.
I will be using Vegas as my NLE. Question: What inputs should I be looking for on a production monitor? Do they all have the same inputs? I don't want to get a professional monitor and find out this card won't hook into the monitor. Will I need a DV to Analog converter box to hook up the NTSC monitor? And can someone suggest a 13-17 inch production monitor in the under $700 range? I only have two in mind at the moment: a Sony PVM-14L1 and a JVC TM-H1700GU model. I don't think they have blue check capabilities, but in this price range what 13-inch monitor does.

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Spot|DSE wrote on 12/17/2003, 8:21 PM
A total waste of money to use the vid card.
No computer video card can produce the matched output of broadcast-destined video. The video card will color the final output, and moreover, won't have accurate information. This same question is happening in 2 other threads.
The Sony 14L1 is an amazing monitor for the price. The JVC is less so, but it's also cheaper.
Don't worry about the card, use a converter such as the Canopus, ADS, or Laird converters. Firewire from computer to converter, converter to the monitor. That's the only accurate route you'll get.
As far as recommending a monitor, at 700 or so, you are right on the cusp of pretty good and really good. Well below the great! level, but plenty good. We bought some used gear when Thomson closed their SLC manufacturing plant, and we're loving the Sony 1311, sometimes you can find them for sub 700.00, but that's a used monitor price.
dale63 wrote on 12/17/2003, 9:19 PM
Is the Canopus ADVC100 highly favored for what you're talking about? Can I still use the PC monitor AND a new NTSC monitor connected to the ADVC100 as the preview monitor?

Finally, correct me if I'm wrong, but this ADVC100 will also capture the video that I shoot. Years ago I produced a project on 3/4-inch SP videotape. Won't this Canopus project be useful, assuming I have a 3/4-inch deck?

Thanksfor you thoughtful relpy, Dale
Spot|DSE wrote on 12/17/2003, 9:56 PM
Yes, the ADVC 100 or 300 are both GREAT converters. Yes, you'll use your PC monitor for the software, and the NTSC monitor to preview (why do they call it 'preview'?) your video.
It's really a post-view, or a re-view of what you've done, right? I mean, pre-view of what? You are looking at it AFTER you've edited, and after you've applied effects, and after you've applied titles, so why is it pre-view?
It's late, I'm tired, and feeling like being a smarta##.
You'll be very happy doing it this way, one or two computer monitors and one NTSC (or PAL) monitor, depending on where you reside.
And yes, the ADVC will pass video in both directions. Analog in, analog out, with digital in/analog out for the preview. And it's got Y/C connectors too.
Grazie wrote on 12/18/2003, 12:19 AM
SPOT-ON ! It's really a post-view, or a re-view of what you've done, right? I mean, pre-view of what? Been thinking the same since I started with this stuff some 2 years back. Glad one of the Pros here feels the same.

Hey Spot! Don't get too tired for your Chat on VideoGuys ?!?!

Grazie
dale63 wrote on 12/18/2003, 8:08 PM
Questions: As a "Preview Monitor" would the Canopus ADVC100 give just as good results on a NTSC monitor as the ADV300 would--using Vegas as the NLE? I was just curious if the encoder is superior. Would one or the other give better realtime capability?

Secondly, The 300 has software to install and the 100 is software free, correct? I realize the 300 has noise reduction capabilities/etc., but wouldn't I be able to use Vegas to do what the 300 offers? The additional $200 isn't a factor, but I don't want to throw two Franklins away certainly. Would you prefer one over the other? I don't plan on capturing old VHS tapes. I just want to capture a 104 minute 3/4-inch video production at its best original quality and also edit DV using the Sony 14L1--which doesn't have component inputs.
dale63 wrote on 12/19/2003, 6:20 AM
It is pretty new so I guess not many Vegas users have tried out the 300 yet.
PAW wrote on 12/19/2003, 8:42 AM

There was a thread a short while ago where someone was using the 300 try doing a search

I think it is called preview because it is a preview of what will be rendered - does that make sense?

PAW
PAW wrote on 12/19/2003, 8:47 AM

Thought I would look it up for you

Regards, PAW


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dale63 wrote on 12/19/2003, 10:05 AM
Thanks a lot.