Progressive Scan?!?!

jrazz wrote on 10/26/2004, 7:53 PM
I film weddings and use Vegas and DVD-A to render and produce them. I have recently acquired a new professional JVC mini DV Progressive Scan video camera. I can film at the regular fps or at approximately 60fps with Progressive Scan.

What are the benifits to using Progressive Scan? Can you burn a dvd with progressive scan frame rates? Should I just use the 30 fps?

I tried to find some more information on the progressive scan recording feature, but what I came up with mostly dealt with TV's in HD and DVD players.

Basically, what I am asking is if anybody has any advice on using Progressive Scan for what I do. Thanks for your time.

j razz

Comments

Spot|DSE wrote on 10/26/2004, 8:04 PM
If your video is to be ever seen on a regular TV, progressive scan does you little good, and may create some headaches if you don't know how to shoot in P mode. I didn't know JVC had a DV cam that did true progressive scan, but I've not looked at their models lately.
farss wrote on 10/26/2004, 9:14 PM
I'd agree with SPOT, firstly I' make certain it really does shoot P and if it doesn't ignore it big time.
If it does then at 60fps you should be OK, at 30p it's getting more critical and at 24p be afraid if you don't know how to shoot film.
One advantage of progressive is if you plan web delivery, if not, why use it?
Despite what many may think the 'film look' can be gotten pretty close to without shooting 24p and all its dramas. It's got as much if not more to do with lighting, DOF and all the other subtle things fim has and those who know how to shoot it use.

Bob.
Stonefield wrote on 10/27/2004, 12:14 AM
Well speaking from the strickly low end production side of things...

I shoot prog scan simply because I love the look. Normal mode looks too "videotape" to me. I find the progressive scan ( and that's non-24p here ) to look just warm and pleasing. Of course being a photographer I'm very aware of my lighting so that may have something to do with my "look" as well.

But generally I shoot progressive scan because of the pleasing image.

Stan

I'm using the Canon Elura btw.
jrazz wrote on 10/27/2004, 5:55 PM
Thanks for you guys' input... to the last guy that uses progressive scan, how do you go about putting it on dvd? What are the specs? Thanks for your time and information guys.

j razz
Stonefield wrote on 10/27/2004, 6:18 PM
I've actually yet to get into DVD burning. I just got a burner recently and my main delivery is on the internet. I've been using my burner for mostly storage and back up.
Spot|DSE wrote on 10/27/2004, 6:39 PM
If your Elura is one of the old ones/microphone on top, then it's a true progressive scan. Wish they'd have kept that.....
Stonefield wrote on 10/27/2004, 7:00 PM

That's the very one Spot. When my Elura dies that's a sad day for me. Wonder why such a wonderful feature was discontinued in next generation models?
garo wrote on 10/27/2004, 10:25 PM
How do I know if my camera records in Progressive or not?
I am using a Canon XM2

//Garo
Spot|DSE wrote on 10/27/2004, 10:27 PM
You have a Frame Mode on your XM 2. This is accomplished by shifting pixels. This also has a loss of resolution.
jrazz wrote on 10/31/2004, 6:35 AM
How do you set up progressive scan to burn correctly in Vegas? What bit rate should I use? Do I adjust the frame rate manually or does it do it itself? Is there a need to do all this or should I just stick with the old 30 fps? Thanks guys.
Stonefield wrote on 10/31/2004, 10:12 AM
What IS the difference between true progressive scan and the "frame mode" I see on a lot of cameras?
Barry_Green wrote on 10/31/2004, 10:36 AM
Search for Steve Mullen's article "Progressive: What You Need To Know" for the difference between frame mode and progressive.
Coursedesign wrote on 10/31/2004, 2:08 PM
" I have recently acquired a new professional JVC mini DV Progressive Scan video camera."

What's the model # of your camera?

Film-originated DVDs are stored progressive on the DVD, as the input is by definition progressive. The DVD player will then convert the signal to interlaced if need for a non-progressive TV (which most are today of course).