Peter?

Arrrgghhh! (Good enough for you?

Have you got a copy of SONY Acid? That's got a Preference : FOLDERS : tab.

And this has, let me count . . :

1, 2, 3, 4, 5

. .. yes five folders you have the options to setup. And these are available to be set from just one TAB! Luxury!

Plus a logical means of assigning folders (still within the same tab!) for:

Either Project default OR (as above) "type of project media save" PLUS the "Groove" folder and the Temp folder.

So, that's like 7 options for folders. ACID is owned by SONY. So is Vegas. I will stop myself there . . . <wink>

And Peter, for me Vegas remembers where I render things, but, after rendering is vague where I last saved my Project? My point is it has an intelligent road map GPS/intelligence about what I just did - render - and uses this info to move on, but not for doing another procedure. It has "selective" short term route-map memory. Ah, bless!

Grazie

Interesting Grazie - I use Acid a fair bit but didn't know that - Acid also has Nested Tracks, which I have said before I hope to see in the next version of Vegas - seemingly not now gonna be in a Point upgrade(but the new Trimmer has several NEW features!), so hopefully V9, and hopefully it will also have a Preference / Folders tab too!

Whilst in the same project and doing, say, a second render then Vegas goes back to the same Folder I previously rendered to, let's call it Folder XX - that's fine, but when I move onto a different project it still thinks I want to render to Folder XX, which I never do!

Yes Peter.

I have 2 observations:

1] Vegas and ACID are owned and developed by the same company - SONY.

2] How easy would it be for a simple Project Start Menu to appear with ALL the settings one could think of being displayed? Now, one could have a setting that allowed one to select which of these global settings one would want to appear each and everytime I started a project. For example if I would be using the same video media time and time again THAT would be a default setting from project to project. But folders? Come on?? That would be so easy to execute! Now, Media. - Ah yes Media! Vegas does something real cute in recognising the media and then SETTING the project to match. Good. When I saw this for the first time around my eyes popped out! But then, then, then . . having now got a grip on WHAT the project should be being set at, I have to get our of this screen to then OPEN/Drag that same media in. Why not have this available from the point at which I have the media? So, what I have been suggesting for years now is that, and until such time I want to change it, have the PROJECT settings start from the time I drag media into it. It could ALSO come up with a message that would say:

"Hey Grazie - Old Bean - You have dragged in some SD/HD/PAL .. whatever . . do you want your project to be set to SD/HD/PAL .. whatever . . ? If not, tell me what you want it set to?"

Vegas is obviously cute enough to recognise WHAT the media is ( see above) why can't it carry this "found" intelligence to a global-project-setting menu? You'd think?

But what do I know . .. ?

Grazie

How it is that this has never been addressed after all these years escapes me. Not all Vegas users are going to be all that computer literate. The results of them simply going with the Vegas flow can be be pretty ugly.
Same goes for DVDA, which if you don't intervene will put it's temporary files into some difficult to find folder that's very likely going to be on the system drive.

Bob.

"Not all Vegas users are going to be all that computer literate."

Bob, might I respectfully counter that, by saying it has little if nothing to do with being "computer literate" - I bet this burns the butts of many an old hand here abouts. It is purely and simply an "easy" way of doing things. I don't need to get out my abacus to calculate the digital ONEs and NOUGHTSs needed for a procedure in Vegas. I have a Windows-machinecode/Windows gui and a subsequent Vegas INterface to do this for me.

Not being litereate about these things aint a curse here - it is ALL about making the creative process easier. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking that "dumbing-down" a process is the driving force for this. It SHOULD be about a better edting experience.

As I have pointed out, already, Vegas has a lot of superb cute things going for it and already does, why not finesse what it DOES have into something slicker!

Grazie

We seem to be saying the same thing!
Yes, it burns my butt that I have to wrangle these issues and I think I'm mildy computer literate. I thought that point was made in my first sentence and was already covered by you and Peter. I didn't and don't in way disagree with that at all. And yes it annoys the heck out of me that in the middle of my feeble attempts at being creative I've got to switch mental mode and start thinking about where I really should render something to and then freak about where I might accidently save my project to.

My point was that if you're not all that computer literate, it's even more of a problem. Such users tend to just click through things and create a mess.

Now while we're on the subject of user friendliness I'd like to add another suggestion to the melting pot.
It's pretty simple I believe to make a call to Windoz to find out where the user lives. From that it's also pretty easy to figure out if they're in a Region50 or Region60 (PAL or NTSC) country. From that at least one could prevent users from editing PAL on a NTSC timeline and getting an initial unpleasant experience.

Bob.

Understood. Yes 100%!!

My quest, perlustration & plea will continue to be to place USER comfort & creativity over programming implacability, obdurateness, intransigency & inexorableness.

Grazie

To improve user comfort I was going to suggest an Aeron chair but then I watched and I'm certain I could see Grazie in one shot making off with one anyway.

Bob.

About each year i post a suggestion to Sony to change this idiot behavior.

Otherwise, i consider Vegas to be really a no nonsense application but the "one size fit all" folder idea is a truly, plainly dumb feature i never saw elsewhere...

I always work with many projects at the same time and this drive me mad.

Bastien

Thanks Bob!

"How it is that this has never been addressed after all these years escapes me"

Can't remember if I ever addressed it here but I definitely filed it as a feature request. Actually, pretty sure I brought it up here too. It's been talked about but it never inspired a 100+ thread.

Rob

I wish you could specify, AND always remember the last folder used for a function.
Frustrating when in a hurry to have to specify capture folder on new project, or to set up a DVDA project only to find your temp folder isn't valid, and then have to set up the entire DVDA project all over again.

At the risk of screwing things up, you can diddle with the internal preferences. I long ago changed the default for my script folder, because I don't want ANYTHING stored on my C: drive (I use that for only programs and Windows; all temp files and everything else is stored on other drives).

There is also a Capture Setting Path. I long since quit using the Vegas Capture app for anything, but I would guess that changing this would change the default. There is also a Record Path.

What I don't know is if, after changing these, they will "stick." The script path sticks because nothing else changes it, but some of these others may get changed by internal logic in Vegas, depending on where you store things.

Unfortunately you can't override the "default" column in the internal preferences.

I also looked at the registry entries and didn't see anything there which looked helpful.

> Have you got a copy of SONY Acid? That's got a Preference : FOLDERS : tab.

Yup. The FOLDERS tab is one of my favorite features of ACID. This makes it really easy to control where everything goes. I'd love to see this put into Vegas.

> So, what I have been suggesting for years now is that, and until such time I want to change it, have the PROJECT settings start from the time I drag media into it.

This is such a simple yet powerful concept. If when you drop the first piece of media into a project and it doesn't match the project settings, just prompt me to ask if I'd like to set the project to match the media. I am constantly doing projects in either HDV, DV Widescreen or DV 4:3 and having to continually reset the project is a drag. It would be so great if the first file I dragged gave me the option to sync the project settings. (Yes I know there is a button for this on the project settings page but it requires me to find the same piece of media that I just dropped into the project which is twice the work.) Obviously there needs to be an option to turn off the prompt for those who want the old behavior.

~jr