purchase advice?

KEK wrote on 3/22/2005, 4:46 PM
I presently have a 2001 Sony Vaio Pentium 4 1.8 GHz, 512 MB ram, that works ok but doesn't accomodate a second monitor for editing. I'm hoping that a new, separate computer, used only for editing, without anything on it but Vegas + DVD, will give me more stability, fewer glitchy, jerky picture problems, ( it happens only sporadically), the needed monitor connection, and be quicker at editing. Puget Custom Computer has a High Performance Computer w/Pentium 4 3.2 GHz, 1 GB ram, Raptor 74 GB hard drive ( I can get more), EVGA GeForce FX 6600 GT 128 MB PCI-E Video Card for $1,940. Am I doing OK with this purchase? I need to edit projects with perhaps 20 hours of footage and have maybe 2 hours on the time line at one time.

Comments

Yoyodyne wrote on 3/22/2005, 4:56 PM
Sounds like it should do the trick - seems a little spendy to me...

Are they giving good support? You also might wan't to search the forum for computer specs etc. Tons of info lying around here.

My only two recomendations are make sure it has the Texas instruments 1394 chipset on the firewire and an Intel chipset on the motherboard.

good luck,
PossibilityX wrote on 3/22/2005, 4:57 PM
KEK, it sounds OK to me but keep in mind I'm something of a newbie, myself. So I may be wrong, but the machine you have in mind is hotter than mine, and mine seems to work fine.

You do realize you'll need more than 74 GB to hold 20 hours of video, right? Figure 13 GB per hour of video, and ideally the video is NOT on your system drive but stored on a separate drive or drives.
Cheno wrote on 3/22/2005, 5:23 PM
Sounds about $200 - $300 too high. Lots of systems can be had for around that with LCD - I just had some custom builds in the Shuttle cases - same configs and cost me about $1700 with 17" LCD -

Mike
KEK wrote on 3/22/2005, 5:48 PM
Is there a company you recommend for such a purchase?
PossibilityX wrote on 3/22/2005, 5:51 PM
KEK, mine's a Dell.

Not sure what you can get from them nowadays for the price you mentioned, or how it should ideally be configured, but I have to say I've been pretty satisfied with the machine. My last one was a Dell, too. This one runs Vegas with no problems.
Yoyodyne wrote on 3/22/2005, 5:54 PM
I know Boxx has a good reputation with Vegas, heres a link:

http://www.boxxtech.com/products/configurator.asp?ModelSeriesID=104

Boxx
riredale wrote on 3/22/2005, 10:21 PM
The machine you describe will certainly do the trick, but then so will a machine with one-third the horsepower. There are people on this Board who have CPUs under 1GHz that do a great job with Vegas. Similarly, 1GB of ram is overkill by about a factor of 3, but then what the heck, if you want it, it certainly isn't going to slow the system down--it just won't make any difference.

So I guess what I'm saying is that the new proposed system is way, way more than what is needed, but if you want it, go for it. As for the glitches on your current system, there could be many factors, but they are unrelated to basic system horsepower. Perhaps some virus scan is starting up, or a scheduled disk defrag, or whatever.
lawapa wrote on 3/23/2005, 8:15 PM
DawBox.com Built mine. Justin Lynch put it together for me. I started using computers to record audio and sequence midi. I've got a P4 2.8gig 1 gig ram box that runs Sonar. That puppy hums fine as wine. But when it came time to add video to my set up I got Justin (did my Sonar sys) to do a custom build AMD 64 3000+, 1 gig ram ATI aiw 9600 video card 120gig Seagate OS drive and 160 gig sg video drive. This has Vegas5 and SoundForge6 installed. A Maudio audiophile soundcard for audio and it is sweat. All this for $1400. These guys know there stuff. If your looking give them a shout. They build these audio/video DAW's for a living. And these systems are tweaked to do the job. My 2 systems are offline which keeps things simple. But complicates the registration process :)+)
FuTz wrote on 3/24/2005, 3:47 AM
Just two little details:
For application "as is", 1Go of RAM may be overkill, but for me, since I use very much often Dynamic RAM preview the more is the better. I like to check out my "tricky parts" in production as I progress through my editing so if I could have 3Go, I would certainly take it.

Second point: concerning the external monitor you'd like to have on your system. When I bought my laptop, it was specified it could give me an external monitor but the little thing I didn' t check for was being sure that it allowed me to have it as a *second* screen, I mean not a duplicate of my laptop screen but an extended desk. And it is not, so if I had to go for a laptop again, I'd try to find one that gives me that option. But the thing is; I don't even know if it exists.
Having the option of being able to undock some windows to a second screen has become more than a must to me...
Oh, and check out the specs concerning resolution your graphic card can handle. I got a 1024x768 and if I go out to this external 21" monitor, I can't have 1600x1200 nor even 1280x1024 so it's more of a "geatrics" thing than an actual "plus"... downer cause actually, I don't have any gain.

Two personnal choices but I still wanted to point out just in case.

Good luck and I wish you the best you can find!
MH_Stevens wrote on 3/24/2005, 8:56 AM
Don't be talked into going under power. You may want to edit HDV soon or frameserve to MPEG4 in Nero recode etc. - all this requires power to work without errors. See the CineForm MINIMUM spec on their site. Top end straight Pentium P4's, not the E's or 64 bit ones, the old straight ones, are cheap now and work fine. Also for efficiency I found RAID 0 is almost a neccesity for the data drive. Named brands like Dell are expensive. I just bought this system for $1300 and I need spend a further $150 to add the RAID 0 second drive, so $1450 for this and it works great for Vegas HD:

Pentium P4 3.4GHz HT on Intel P915 motherboard
1 GB DDR-400 (PC3200) RAM
nVidia GeForce PCX 5300 - 128MB PCIe video card
System HD: WD 7200rpm SATA 160MB
Data HD: 2x WD 7200rpm SATA 250MB (500MB total) in RAID 0 formation

You can get systems like this from Fry's or Microcenter and tax free by UPS if you live in the right area.

Mike