First, I know, I know what most will say...
"Start with good lighting and footage."
Agreed, but sometimes even the best efforts with a non-pro camcorder don't pan out (I have a Canon HV30).
And indeed: the provided stills of this project in its current state will show that said footage is pretty crappy to most of you (as it does to me) - lol.
But that's the point of a forum - to ask for help.
Project Info
Vegas version: 8.c
Project properties: 960x540, progressive, 1.0 aspect ratio, 8-bit.
Viewing platform: Online either at full rez when available or proportionally smaller FLV (usually 576 or 512 width resolution). FLV rendered with On2 Standard Flix 8.
Those of you who have known me over the years here are aware that I have a particular visual style that is much different from what most of you pros work in (realistic, documentary, weddings, etc.). My style leans into the dreamy and artist-fied to reflect the spirit of my website's perspectives, CompassionSensuality.Net.
And last but not least, I'm a serious amateur not a pro and am not looking to make money on this stuff currently; I also live on a very limited fixed income so need to find in-Vegas and/or freeware/free plugin solutions. Whatever the solution, my brain is not equipped to use command line/script solutions -- I need a GUI way :o)
OK, on to the subject at hand...
The Core Problem
The granularity is of the RGB kind so the only way to wipe it out is to go for a kind of monochrome look, and that is what you will see, though it still has the grain, just not as off-putting as the RGB kind that gives it a kind of webcam look. But in that monochrome-ing, I lose range.
So ideally, I'd like to be able to still use the full color range but greatly reduce said granularity.
As Johnmeyer here once suggested, this kind of subject lends itself well to the softening or "Vaseline on lens" look, so I can kind of cheat by using that as a way to reduce granularity. But it's also not the best solution either -- for one loses crispness/detail too.
I created a full-size (1280 width x 3200 length px) composite .jpg of in-Vegas screenshots so as to show all this as accurately as possible. I also chose the most zoomed-in and hence grainiest part of the clip since that is were the flaws show up the most.
Here is what you will see in this big .jpg in descending order:
1. FX chain used for this clip.
3. Pan/zoom window with right side of frame blurred for privacy concerns.
3. No FX/raw split preview of the one core FX that has kind of "saved" this footage to a small degree by softening things: Magic Bullet Movie Looks "Mescali".
4. Split screen of all FX applied vs. No FX/raw footage (left and right)
Thanks for you input and suggestions. Hopefully one or two of my favorite "teachers" here over the years will frisbee in their wisdom ... :o)
~ Philip
"Start with good lighting and footage."
Agreed, but sometimes even the best efforts with a non-pro camcorder don't pan out (I have a Canon HV30).
And indeed: the provided stills of this project in its current state will show that said footage is pretty crappy to most of you (as it does to me) - lol.
But that's the point of a forum - to ask for help.
Project Info
Vegas version: 8.c
Project properties: 960x540, progressive, 1.0 aspect ratio, 8-bit.
Viewing platform: Online either at full rez when available or proportionally smaller FLV (usually 576 or 512 width resolution). FLV rendered with On2 Standard Flix 8.
Those of you who have known me over the years here are aware that I have a particular visual style that is much different from what most of you pros work in (realistic, documentary, weddings, etc.). My style leans into the dreamy and artist-fied to reflect the spirit of my website's perspectives, CompassionSensuality.Net.
And last but not least, I'm a serious amateur not a pro and am not looking to make money on this stuff currently; I also live on a very limited fixed income so need to find in-Vegas and/or freeware/free plugin solutions. Whatever the solution, my brain is not equipped to use command line/script solutions -- I need a GUI way :o)
OK, on to the subject at hand...
The Core Problem
The granularity is of the RGB kind so the only way to wipe it out is to go for a kind of monochrome look, and that is what you will see, though it still has the grain, just not as off-putting as the RGB kind that gives it a kind of webcam look. But in that monochrome-ing, I lose range.
So ideally, I'd like to be able to still use the full color range but greatly reduce said granularity.
As Johnmeyer here once suggested, this kind of subject lends itself well to the softening or "Vaseline on lens" look, so I can kind of cheat by using that as a way to reduce granularity. But it's also not the best solution either -- for one loses crispness/detail too.
I created a full-size (1280 width x 3200 length px) composite .jpg of in-Vegas screenshots so as to show all this as accurately as possible. I also chose the most zoomed-in and hence grainiest part of the clip since that is were the flaws show up the most.
Here is what you will see in this big .jpg in descending order:
1. FX chain used for this clip.
3. Pan/zoom window with right side of frame blurred for privacy concerns.
3. No FX/raw split preview of the one core FX that has kind of "saved" this footage to a small degree by softening things: Magic Bullet Movie Looks "Mescali".
4. Split screen of all FX applied vs. No FX/raw footage (left and right)
Thanks for you input and suggestions. Hopefully one or two of my favorite "teachers" here over the years will frisbee in their wisdom ... :o)
~ Philip