Question about the new 3D space manipulation in V5

cheroxy wrote on 5/8/2004, 5:28 PM
I would like to do the following and can't figure out how:

Have a picture look like the top right corner folds over on top itself as if it were a page and someone "dog-eared" the corner.

I can't get it to work because the 3D rotation rotates about the center of the screen.

This is how I approached it. I put the same picture on two tracks. Used bezier masking to crop the same corner on both leaving one as positive and one as negative. I took the top one that was negative (thus only the corner shows) and tried to rotate it so that it looks like the corner of the page is dog-earing itself, but as I stated above...the corner of the page rotates around the center of the picture.

Can anybody give me any help as how to do this or is it just not possible with this type of 3D manipulation?
thanks,
Cheroxy

Comments

PeterWright wrote on 5/8/2004, 6:31 PM
An alternative suggestion - now that V5 has transition envelopes, you could use a page peel transition and freeze it at the point you want.
Grazie wrote on 5/9/2004, 12:46 AM
Peter, I'm with you on this.

cheroxy, I think that maybe you are trying too much .. look for a simpler result. That's why I like Pete's approach - yeah? Hey! Look, 100% with you on trying stuff out . . but sometimes I have to throw my hands up and say, well this is too much . . . however I do like your "thought process" with the Bezier stuff. . neat! Still gonna have a go myself . . thanks for the "approaches" .

Grazie
farss wrote on 5/9/2004, 1:36 AM
I suspect that you're limited by the planar nature of the surfaces in V5. What would be nice is to be able to import a surface or surface sequence and have V5 map video onto that but I think that'd be a way more difficult issue than planar surfaces to implement. Probably much easier to feed the video into an existing app tp do do that.
BTW latest issue of APC comes with a free 3D modelling program. Nothing really new in that but this one seems to work differently, You create 3D objects and then map them onto surfaces. Don't know much about the innards of any 3D apps so maybe this isn't anything all that clever but building a 'face' out of steel tubes looks interesting.
cheroxy wrote on 5/9/2004, 10:09 AM
Thanks guys.
I used the dog ear explanation just to get my idea across. I actually wanted to expand the single fold and use it to fold a picture into a paper airplane and fly it off the screen. I was sure it would be great, but it doesn't look possible.
thanks,
Cheroxy
TorS wrote on 5/9/2004, 11:18 AM
Great idea!
My city was Norway's no 1 canning city - and most of all it used to make sandine tins (flat tins with rounded edges). The paper labels for those tins (beautiful little prints they were - and the foundation for our city's graphical industry) were excellent material for paper airplanes, and were in fact the pokemon cards of my childhood - they were collected, traded and used as stake in various games. Whenever I'm reminded of this I have to shed a few tears (and a lot of words).
Great idea to fold a piece of paper and fly it off the screen. True Disney level - and I mean in a good sense. In the best sense! I hope you make it, and show me the result.
Tor
satish wrote on 5/9/2004, 3:34 PM
How much time have you got to do this effect?

The upcoming version fo Wax plugin for Vegas is going to have a feature to apply videos on 3d models, just like how you want the video to fold step by step into a paper airplane. You can get it going soon by helping out in testing and giving comments about the feature..
chaboud wrote on 5/9/2004, 6:09 PM
Under "Rotation" in the Track Motion window, check out the "X Offset" and "Y Offset" values. If you change those, you might be surprised to find what you can do (dog-eared corner included).
cheroxy wrote on 5/10/2004, 6:24 AM
Thanks a million! As I was pondering over this issue that is exactly what I was wishing vegas had in order to accomplish this effect. I'll go check it out,
Cheroxy
cheroxy wrote on 5/10/2004, 6:25 AM
Satish, I was on the previous beta testing list for your last relese. Let me know when you start trying the others.
Cheroxy
cheroxy wrote on 5/11/2004, 3:48 PM
It has been a couple of days and I am still having problems. If anybody can help, please chime in.

I can get the cropped corner of the page to end in the right position using the x-offset, but the path it takes to get there is incorrect. I can't seem to find any information on the x-offset to find clues on how to get this to work.
thanks,
Cheroxy