Quick black frame before preview playback and other bugs

Cosmin_Gurau wrote on 5/15/2017, 1:01 AM

Hey guys,
In VEGAS PRO 14 (252), in certain very complex projects (not sure if it pertains to the sheer complexity or the number of plugins or both), upon pressing PLAY, the preview screen (not the preview monitor, interesting) displays a quick black frame (about a quarter of a second) before commencing playback. The preview works fine apart from that. The really nagging thing is that once the problem appears in the project, it doesn't seem to go away. Any ideas? 😟

On a related note (or unrelated), loading these complex projects (that have hundreds of instances of mocha pro, boris fx, izotope plugins, and a few ones of altiverb) keep giving off error messages of failing to load certain plugins. "iZotope Trash 2" keeps popping up, for example. And I have to load the project multiple times, at some point (3rd-4th time) it works. Not to mention the fact that the whole project can instantly crash (often without a message) if I sometimes try to take a snapshot, or if I press "undo" at the wrong time, or if I simply right click an event. This is absolutely tedious, and really intereferes with my work.

I obviously can't give any of the projects as they weigh around 150 GB each, and contain too many plugins. But I was just wondering if you guys were met with similar problems and if you found any viable solutions... 😩

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Grazie wrote on 5/15/2017, 1:37 AM

But I was just wondering if you guys were met with similar problems and if you found any viable solutions... 😩

Hitting-The-Wall in processing can be the result of many things. Maybe you've just found out yours with this project; your system; your settings or, perish the thought, some issues with the combination of the plugs and their inability to work with each other or updating needed. Plugs not working with each other!? Shock horror! ("Tell me it aint true Sandy")

Personally? I'd be investigating my workflow and "laying-off" items that can be reconnected moving forward. Have you explored the wacky-off-world experience that is NESTING? I love it, and often gets me going again.

Cosmin_Gurau wrote on 5/15/2017, 9:32 AM

Actually, I tried to use a nested project that had the mocha pro effect applied to a few of its events... It cost me a day to figure out what to do to in order to continue my work. I had to rename the nested vegas file just to be able to open the main project. I resorted to rendering the nested *.veg to a lossless format... Unfortunatelly VEGAS is in bad shape overall, its proper compatibility and stability with all the important plugins is not properly enforced... The moment you need to do some serious work with lots of plugins (video and audio) and lots of files, you are entering a bet with your own time, nerves and sanity. Yet there is no other software like VEGAS, is there. I so wish Gary would assemble a bigger and better team and rewrite everything from scratch, keeping all the features, improving them, adding many others, and most of all, making it BLAZINGLY fast and ROCK steady.

Cosmin_Gurau wrote on 5/15/2017, 6:45 PM

Btw my system specs: Skylake 6700K, Corsair 32GB DDR4 @3200 mHz, Msi GTX1080 + Msi GTX680, Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB + various internal and external HDD. While the system itself is not all that impressive, it should handle these things, given proper software...

Cosmin_Gurau wrote on 5/15/2017, 8:01 PM

For anybody running into similar problems, it seems Altiverb REALLY does not play well with VEGAS PRO. Especially when present in the same project with mocha pro, it seems. Just one single instance of Altiverb, even on a muted event, hogged the playback and slowed down the whole project, making it much more prone to crashing. It seems Altiverb should be pre-baked into your sound files. Glad I could sort this one out too. Hope this is of some use to any other desperate soul.