Quicktime Render Problems

jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 6:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'm new here but have been using Vegas Movie Studio 7 for about 3 years now, and VMS 9 for about 3 days now. All of my previous experience with Vegas has just been with editing DV AVI files.. Now I got a Panasonic AVCHD camera which records to m2t files and just saves them on a flash card. It shoots the video in true 24p at 720. No fake progressive.. no interlacing.. Just true 24p. 23.976024 or whatever to be exact.

Now, my latest project... I copied all of my m2t files to my hard drive, and quickly found out that VMS 7 had no idea what they were. Nor did anything else I tried.

The only thing that recognized them was the awful, free program that came with the camera. So I dropped the clips into that timeline and looked at the render options: There were literally NO render settings. You could pick WMV, AVI, MPG, M2T, MOV but you couldn't detail how you wanted to render these files. Thankfully, if I rendered a MOV file, it was uncompressed and lossless. Everything else looked like absolute garbage after it rendered.

So I rendered all of my m2t files into one uncompressed MOV file for each day of shooting. So all together, I have 8 uncompressed MOV files that I then drop into my Vegas timeline with no problem.

I edit together the hour and a half long movie, render it along the way here and there with wmv, but set to low quality since it's just for emailing to the other people involved to see progress and such.

I also render short uncompressed MOV clips to bring up in after effects and put visual effects on, then render those visual effects back to uncompressed MOV, and drop those back in my Vegas timeline. Everything is always in the same format, uncompressed MOV. 720p 23.976024fps.

Now.... No matter what format I pick, if I go to render this in full 720p23.976 quality, but this time with a codec, at some random point during the process it either hangs and just keeps adding to the elapsed time.. or it crashes with an unknown error.. or it crashes with a low memory error.. or it crashes and says the file could not be created.

It's a different error message in a different spot, each time.

Am I just screwed here? Let me know if there's anything else I need to explain. Thanks very much in advance.

Comments

OhMyGosh wrote on 1/29/2010, 9:20 AM
Someone else will be along shortly to help you with this, but in the mean time you are stuck with me :) You say you are working originally with m2t files? Or are they m2ts? Make sure you have the latest updates for VMS as some of them pertained to those types of files. The same for Quicktime. Is that a newer computer, or did you just upgrade to Win7? I don't think 32bit can handle your RAM as well as 64bit, and you have an integrated graphics card? 'render it along the way here and there with wmv' Not sure what exactly you are doing there. Cin
jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 9:33 AM
Thanks for the reply:

I mean like rendering the entire thing as a "progress file" in low quality WMV. Like a 640x480 file that can be uploaded to our fileshare and what not.

The computer I'm using is a Dell, which I haven't modified whatsoever since I bought it last year. I upgraded to Win 7. The problems may or may not have started when I upgraded to Win7. I never tested a full quality complete render in Windows Vista.

My version of VMS is 9.0b if I'm not mistaken. (I just installed it yesterday, I didn't look for updates yet.)

I'm almost positive they were originally m2t files, but those files haven't touched Sony Vegas. I've only been working with Uncompressed Quicktime source files in Vegas.
jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 9:43 AM
I'm an IT guy, not a video expert by any means..

But just coming from my background, why I cant figure this out is because it happens in a different spot and with a different error message each time. It never dies in the same place twice.
jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 10:37 AM
Sorry, I got something mixed up - my original "off the camera" source files were MTS files. Windows says that is an AVCHD file.

But again, these files are converted into Uncompressed MOV, and never touch Sony Vegas.

And my VMS version is 9.0b Build 92.

My Quicktime version is 7.6.4
musicvid10 wrote on 1/29/2010, 11:33 AM
My Quicktime version is 7.6.4

Try rolling back to QT 7.6 and see if that helps.
7.6.4 and above are broken in Vegas.
jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 11:47 AM
I will try exactly this.

The version of Quicktime that I have installed directly affects Vegas? I would think that Vegas installs its own Quicktime Codecs, no?

musicvid10 wrote on 1/29/2010, 12:58 PM
Vegas "borrows" the libs from whatever QT version is installed on your machine. It's an achilles heel.
jameswlfk010 wrote on 1/29/2010, 5:13 PM
Didn't work, same problem.

I also wasn't able to render a DVD.
Markk655 wrote on 1/29/2010, 7:44 PM
James,

This might be a question of going one step backwards to go two step forwards. In your first post, you mention Vegas 7. This has no support for .mts (.m2ts) AVCHD files. That came in V08. If you computer is up to snuff you should be able to now take your .mts files and drag them directly to the timeline. Then try rendering and burning your DVD from that. In this case you just ignore that .mov file that you previous made by stitching the files together.