Raylight Encoder Issue DVCPRO-HD w/MOV

TimTyler wrote on 1/13/2008, 1:19 PM
I have Raylight's Encoder installed which will allow me to play DVCPRO-HD Quicktimes perfectly in the Quicktime Player, but when I load the MOV's in Vegas there are some problems.

http://inventivepictures.com/redFrames.jpg

This screen grab of the timeline illustrates the issue. The red frames appear as black in the Vegas preview window. In the Quicktime Player they are properly displayed as dissolves between the previous and following clips. If I render them, they're still black.

Comments

backlit wrote on 1/14/2008, 8:31 AM
I think those red frames are what Vegas displays when it can't interpret the frame. I've seen them with corrupted files. I don't know if the file you are using is corrupted or Vegas is simply having difficulty with that codec.
kairosmatt wrote on 1/14/2008, 6:01 PM
I've had some problems using the raylight plugin straight on the Vegas timeline myself. But they're always temporary, so if I save and close, and re-open, they're fixed for a while.

I have a video problem where it "needed a frame". Or at least that's what it says. When this happens, I get quite a few in a row, you keep clicking okay, then you get empty files. Close and reopen!

I also have audio issues, where the file is playing and then they're is a loud, way past peaking squelch noise that about blows out your ear drum and then the file starts playing back from that point. Close and re-open!

Don't know if these issues are similiar to what your experiencing. But the best workflow for me is to use raymaker and create selfcontained AVIs. These have no bugs. I don't know if raymaker will work on Quicktime DVCProHD clips (are they from FCP?) but it just might. If it does, and you get the red frames still, then backlit is probably correct. I've seen those red frames in HDV, and it sometimes crashes Vegas too.

Also, Marcus Van Bavel is very good about responding on the DVFilm forum, you may want to post here: http://dvfilm.com/cgi-bin/board/main.cgi?board=rayvegas
kairosmatt wrote on 1/14/2008, 6:04 PM
Also, just saw this on their website:

http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/EncoderPro/index.htm

Don't know if that helps, but good luck!
rmack350 wrote on 1/15/2008, 10:10 AM
"In the Quicktime Player they are properly displayed as dissolves between the previous and following clips."

Hmmm. I've never seen this used in Vegas but it sounds like you're using a Quicktime reference file? That would be a single quicktime file that points to other media files (How you could have a disolve between two clips within a single quicktime file)

If this is the case I'd think it's Quicktime's responsibility to render the dissolve and it won't do it when you play in Vegas. I don't know why Quicktime doesn't render it, but I also don't know why Vegas can even play it.

Rob Mack
TimTyler wrote on 1/15/2008, 8:47 PM
Thx, but these aren't reference files, just standalone MOV's.

I'm heading out of town for a few days, so I'll try to resolve this on the weekend.
mvb wrote on 1/21/2008, 2:04 PM
Just to recap you're using Raylight Encoder Pro with quicktime files, not DVFilm Raylight
with MXF files (that is the product that people here are more familiar with).

Make sure the frame rate of the project and the frame rate of the quicktimes
are exactly the same. Otherwise vegas will have problems.

If you have any further issues I would contact DVFilm support, as we do not
check this forum very often.




TimTyler wrote on 1/21/2008, 7:31 PM
Thx, Martin.

I have both Raylight and the Decoder.

I had another FCP friend render the project yesterday and his MOV's were perfectly usable in Vegas.

Thanks again for the Raylight products!