re: duplicate dvd

sonicboom wrote on 10/30/2002, 6:25 AM
hey gang,
a few months ago i shot and edited my friend's tennis video
then i burned a dvd with ulead movie factory---it included 16 chapters
now he wants to duplicate it
here how:
he bought a stand alone pioneer dvd burner(i forget get the model)and i have a stand alone 656a pioneer dvd player
i don't think it will work because of the chapters
if i put it in my pioneer it will only go to the main menu
he wants to try on saturday but i told him it won't work
am i right or wrong?
or is there another way to duplicate his dvd--aside from going to a replication house
he wants 100 of them
thnx and happy halloween
:)
sb

Comments

Paul_Holmes wrote on 10/30/2002, 11:01 AM
If he bought a Pioneer burner and the original DVD you gave him was in the DVD-R format then he should be able to insert that in the burner, create either a disc image or copy the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders to his hard drive. Then he should be able to make DVDs from that image or those folders. This assumes he got software with the burner, such as Prassi pr Veritas Primo DVD, or another similar program.
riredale wrote on 10/30/2002, 11:07 AM
Easy. Just copy it as you would any file, using something like Nero. Your DVD contains a humungous folder called VIDEO_TS that holds all the stuff your DVD player needs. You can read it in to your hard drive, then burn it back out to a DVD-R. That's it.

People trying to copy Hollywood DVDs have it a bit harder, not because of the copy protection (cracked long ago) but because those DVDs typically use a double-layered disk that holds up to about 8GB. Since a conventional DVD-R disk tops out at about 4.3GB, one either needs to split the data onto two disks (not trivial) or disassemble, re-encode for a lower bitrate, and reassamble (not trivial). If and when dual-layer DVD-Rs come out, it will be easy to duplicate commercial releases. This is why Hollywood is trying to get Congress into the act. My personal opinion is that no matter what one thinks about copyrights, it's a losing proposition, and their hysteria shows they know it.

If you're planning on making 100 of them, better get the coffee pot ready. The alternative, as you mentioned, is to get them replicated (pressed, not burned) but as you've no doubt discovered it will cost in the range of $12 a disk for a run of only 100. Within a month, however, the new Pioneer 4X burner should be available for about $300. 15 minutes a disk, while still painful, is progress.
sonicboom wrote on 10/30/2002, 11:36 AM
i'm confused!!!
i don't think i explained myself properly
i burned the dvd in my computer with ulead movie factory and gave it to him
he is not using a computer
he intends to go from a stand alone set top dvd player directly into his stand alone pioneer dvd burner
he is not running anything through a computer
will he still be able to do this?
thnx
sbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsb
jetdv wrote on 10/30/2002, 12:19 PM
He should be able to copy the video itself but he will NOT get a copy of the DVD and it will NOT contain the same chapter points.

To get exact copies, copy the Video_TS and Audio_TS back to your computer and burn them, one at a time, on your A04. No standalone recorder will give exact copies.
dsanders wrote on 10/30/2002, 3:19 PM
Just for your information, take a look at this link:

http://www.dvdxcopy.com
jetdv wrote on 10/30/2002, 3:37 PM
That still requires using a computer to do the copying and is much more complicated than just copying the files. This product seem more geared toward piracy than quick copies.
sonicboom wrote on 10/30/2002, 4:28 PM
thnx guys
this is what i was afraid of-----my friend wanting to borrow my computer to burn 100 copies of his tennis video
i have many projects i need to get out---and i am not letting him tie up my computer for 2 weeks
i'll make him a dvd without chapters and have him make his own on his stand alone dvd burner
cheers
sb
JJKizak wrote on 10/30/2002, 5:29 PM
Sonic Boom:
I copy and pasted the video Ts file from a DVD-RW disc from a Pioneer
A0-3 to the hard drive. Then used Prassi to write the
file to a DVD-R disc. It worked slicker than camel snot on a doorknob.

James J. Kizak
PDB wrote on 10/31/2002, 4:25 AM
Just for those who may be interested, I came across this programme which looks good to make copies of your home made dvds....http://www.dvdxcopy.com/
craftech wrote on 10/31/2002, 8:28 AM
The ad implies that it will make exact copies of commercially made movies which is impossible because they won't fit on a single layer disc. Sounds hoaky and a waste of $100.
Chienworks wrote on 10/31/2002, 10:49 AM
I've gotten spammed by the dvdxcopy.com folks so bad i started looking into them. They're under investigation for mail fraud and have several lawsuits against them for illegal spamming pending in both Washington and California. When i finally got ahold of a phone number for them, i called and talked to the guy. I think i woke him up in the middle of his afternoon nap. I heard dogs barking and a kid crying in the background, and some soap opera playing on the television. I asked for his eMail address so i could send him a list of my domains to be blocked from his mailings and the address he gave me was a personal address at his local ISP.

This definately does NOT sound like the sort of place to do business with.
psg wrote on 10/31/2002, 11:06 AM
sb:

If your friend really wants 100 copies of the DVD, I would look into one of the CD/DVD duplication houses. They do this sort of stuff for corporate, advertising and promotional videos all the time. I don't have a particular one to recommend, but maybe others on here do.

psg
PDB wrote on 10/31/2002, 11:37 AM
Wow!...all I can do is apologise for posting that reference: I confess I never looked into it... Sorry everyone!!
PeterMac wrote on 10/31/2002, 4:13 PM
The only problem I can see is the sheer chore of making 100 copies. With the tools you have, it will take around two days, working day and night without a break!

Since the original DVD will not be encrypted (if it is you'll need SmartRipper or DVD Decrypter), you simply copy all the files from the DVD to some handy folder on the hard drive. The files will comprise an AUDIO_TS folder, which will be empty, and a VIDEO_TS folder, which will typically have VIDEO_TS.IFO & .BUP, VTS_01.IFO & .BUP and however many *.VOBs.

Both Nero and DVD Workshop can take these files, after making sure you maintain the original file names and order as you found them on the original DVD; that is, you must preserve the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders and their contents, and burn them to a new DVD. You might save a little time by getting an 'image' created the first time you do it and use this as the basis for the other 99 <g>

After that, you just have the laborious slog of burning 100 disks...

Might be worth getting prices from a few places that do this sort of thing professionally!

-Pete

(The above assumes the original was a DVD-d, not a DVD-9 - and I'm sure it must have been if you did it yourself)