REALLY OT: Has this stuff happened to you?

plasmavideo wrote on 12/11/2008, 7:28 AM
On a lighter note before Christmas, I’d love to hear of others experiences like this:

Last night was my usual December ritual of recording our annual Christmas dinner show at church. This year, I didn’t have much prep time, and had to hastily setup a half hour before the show, right after my real job.

I thought I had all of the contingencies covered, and was going to make it a bigger deal this year. I’m my own roadie, grip, sound guy, multi-camera operator – you get the picture. Plus, this year I was in charge of the audio reinforcement setup for the stage. That setup I did on Sunday, and was the only thing that went right last night.

Here goes:

Arrived at church in a pouring rain and unloaded the van. Soaked to the skin, I got inside, and setup 3 cameras – two movable, and one fixed. Hooked up a flashdrive recorder to the in house PA, Put a shotgun mic on one movable camera, a stereo tight pattern mic on another camera and put a Zoom H2 recorder out in front of where the bell choir was going to be. I got everything hooked up and ready to go in about a half hour. Checked with the director about lighting, and white balanced the cameras. All this was done in record time. Now ready to rock!

The bell choir director suddenly comes out ten minutes ahead of schedule to start the show. I rush over to the Zoom, put it into record and scoot back to the cameras. In front of the stage area, there is one place I can setup 2 cameras and do wide, tight and pan shots from the same location on those cameras, but it looks on video like they are in separate places, so I can work those 2 simultaneously. The 3rd camera was placed across the room and fixed at a different angle on the stage.

I barely had time to get the cameras rolling before the bell choir started.
Just then, a small kid comes lumbering over to where I’m setup, and manages to launch himself at the tripods. I grab both cameras and prevent them from going over. The parent comes up, and glares at me, as if I forced the little darling to jump into the tripods. The kid won’t stop bawling. I start getting different shots on the individual bell choir members. Seemingly each time I focus on one bell ringer, the still photographer gets in the way and takes a picture (we had previously had a discussion about this, of course).

The bell choir finishes, there is a brief intermission, and I move the Zoom recorder to a different location to get the children’s choirs. By the way, I think the Zoom is an excellent tool for the money, and has a really decent sound for such an affordable piece of gear. It’s saved my butt several times.

The main production starts, and I’m taping away. Just after the opening number, the stage lights change! What the . . . . I quickly throw the 2 cameras into auto white balance to compensate. I wish I had been told. They didn’t do that at rehearsal.

I’m listening in the headphones on the camera with the shotgun mic, and I start hearing a loud kid’s voice saying “99, 98, 97, 96. . .etc”. There is a kid lying down on the floor in front of the camera, rolling around and bellowing out a backwards countdown loud enough for half the audience to hear - where are the parents?. Oh, well, I say to myself – no big deal. I’ve got the OTHER MICS WORKING FINE (LOL).

The scene changes to a different part of the stage with the actors. Suddenly a PINK spotlight comes on and blows out the actors with light. Wait a minute, it was a low level white spot in rehearsals. Thank goodness I switched the cameras to auto white balance.

The rest of the production was relatively uneventful, if you overlook the still photographer getting in the way of the camera following the actors on stage, and the spotlight seemingly having a mind of its own, and kids constantly trying to bump into the tripods. (It’s a really crowded area during these major productions, as a dinner is served and there are dinner tables up all over the room).

At the end, I go to retrieve the audio recorders. The one hooked to the PA is turned off. What the heck. . . The Zoom’s record light is blinking, so thank goodness it worked. Then with a sinking feeling, I realize that on the Zoom, it blinks to let you know recording has been armed. Jeez, I didn’t hit record hard enough on the second push in my haste to get it going, and it was in standby the whole time.

I pack up everything in the van in the pouring rain and get home.Soaking wet, I anxiously, hook the flash recorder to the computer to see what happened with that. There is a file there! Yahoo! – BUT – it’s only 8 minutes long – now what! Oh lord, I discover a file folder I missed on the drive that contained a LOT of old audio files. How the heck did I miss that when I cleaned out the drive earlier? The thing ran out of space, and shut itself off.

What a night! I don’t think anyone can blame me for pouring three fingers worth of blackberry brandy and drowning my sorrows.

How about you guys?

Comments

Sebaz wrote on 12/11/2008, 8:00 AM
Interesting story. I would think maybe it's a good idea to find some of that "Do not cross" police tape and make a square around you with four posts if you can find them. I taped a school play in January and lucky me I was on an elevated platform. I would always request that if I had to tape a school play or something like what you did.

Other things were more lack of preparation. I don't mean to be harsh, but the Zoom not recording could've been prevented. Nobody's perfect, of course. When I taped that school play I had taken an old Digital 8 camera to put up front to use as audio recorder, since it has great microphones and records in 16 bit 48 Khz PCM, and when I got to the school I realized I had forgotten the D8 tapes, so I had to run into the nearest Chinamart and buy them. Luckily I was on an elevated platform so nobody bumped into my tripod. Well, except for me a couple of times :( But well, it was my first paid job as an event videographer, and there were no major problems so I'm still happy about it.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 12/11/2008, 8:23 AM
I would think maybe it's a good idea to find some of that "Do not cross" police tape and make a square around you with four posts if you can find them

in my experience that doesn't work. Nothing works, people ignore even you STANDING there not letting them in.
Coursedesign wrote on 12/11/2008, 8:40 AM
Buy some 2' electrical insulators and put them on top of your gear (can be on a grip arm), and set up black and yellow signs saying "HIGH VOLTAGE" and a spark symbol.

That gets people's attention.

Some of my female employees were drinking my direct-imported Barry's Gold Blend Irish Breakfast Tea, which would have been fine if they had been able to actually tell the difference between that and Supermarket House Brand Breakfast Tea. After a number of ineffective conversations with them about this, I simply put a label on my tea jar: "Chest Hair Tea". I'm sure they knew it was bogus, but they just couldn't take the risk!

johnmeyer wrote on 12/11/2008, 9:10 AM
I always laugh when some of the studio guys in this forum will write a haughty post, berating someone for having to do motion stabilization on a shaky shot ("why didn't you use a tripod, you fool); or having to do white balance in post ("don't you know how to use a white card?").

I could go on, but I have great sympathy for anyone who has to deal with taping live events, whether on stage, or sports, or weddings, or just life itself. You often don't get to properly set up (when the event moves, and you have to move with it); don't get to control the lighting; have to shoot hand-held; and most of all, have to react to things that you've never thought of and -- as is the case with this delightful tale -- NO ONE would have thought of: Counting down from 99? Wow. Was he signing the "bottles of beer on the wall" song?

Anyway, I have tremendous sympathy. Three fingers of rot gut hardly seems enough to cover the pain.

good luck in post ...


winrockpost wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:03 AM
runnin 3 cams... hell i have issues with one....... ever proudly exclaim "how about that" to your producer as you shoot a live action shot that was to be a real gem,,, then get in post and see you had your record and pause mixed up just for a minute.... that minute.
Sebaz wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:10 AM
Buy some 2' electrical insulators and put them on top of your gear (can be on a grip arm), and set up black and yellow signs saying "HIGH VOLTAGE" and a spark symbol.

A seemingly good idea, however I think that if you set that up behind the public seats in a school play and the principal happens to walk by, she's going to be like Kyle's mom in South Park. WhatWhatWhaaaattt????
Coursedesign wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:21 AM
That would be part of briefing the staff.

I have done many things like that, and they worked every time.

teaktart wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:27 AM
And what do you do about the hungry egotist who just has to stand/dance/stare into the front of your camera?
Or like that brat just has to talk through the whole performance right next to your precious camera?
At times I've duct taped my tripod to the floor, surrounded my tripod with portable tables, and thought about bringing highly sharpened knitting needles to get folks to back away as making sign language gestures in a darkened room just doesn't seem to get the message across very well....
Whatever works do it! And to hell with rude parents and kids.....

Eileen
Sebaz wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:37 AM
Whatever works do it! And to hell with rude parents and kids.....

Amen to that!
Chienworks wrote on 12/11/2008, 10:51 AM
I got called in at the last minute to do sound/effects and videotape a comedy show. It was the producer who hired me, of all people, who kept standing right in front of the camera. Sheesh! Gently tapping and asking him to move aside only made him mad. It finally took a couple of his crew to bodily carry him away.

That was also the show where in the initial phone call the afternoon before i said i couldn't do the show because i was already booked that evening so i wouldn't be able to make the rehearsal. I certainly didn't think it fair to them to show up at the opening to run sound effects when i knew nothing about the show, hadn't rehearsed it, and in fact had never even seen it before. The director said "well, there's no one else available, and everyone i asked said you're the one who can do it. So you're hired anyway."

oy.

I got there an hour before opening and was handed a cassette tape, but no cue sheet and no script. My instructions were, "don't worry, it will be so obvious when a sound effect is needed that you'll know what to do."

oy.

All turned out well though. It was painfully obvious, and the tape was laid out well. I just pressed the play button when it seemed like something should occur and pressed stop when the effect was done. Everything worked out.

Well, except for the 2 minutes' or so worth of videotape showing the producer's back!
johnmeyer wrote on 12/11/2008, 11:03 AM
ever proudly exclaim "how about that" to your producer as you shoot a live action shot that was to be a real gem,,, then get in post and see you had your record and pause mixed up just for a minute.... that minute.Or have to change a tape miss the half court buzzer-beater ... that was my lowest moment.
plasmavideo wrote on 12/11/2008, 12:25 PM
QUOTE:

"Buy some 2' electrical insulators and put them on top of your gear (can be on a grip arm), and set up black and yellow signs saying "HIGH VOLTAGE" and a spark symbol".

One of the other engineers at our station actually put up a sign near the satellite dishes in our front yard that said: "Danger: 10,000 Ohms" to keep gawkers from walking up to them. I guess if you make the number big enough, people will think anything is dangerous.

As far as police tape and such - it's amazing what people will do. I've been at remote broadcasts where we will do everything possible to keep people from an area, and they don't seem to pay any attention.

The thing that sometimes baffles me are the people who will walk up to where cables are laid out across a walkway, look down and see them while still a good four or five feet away, and then proceed to trip over them while staring directly at them when crossing. I don't get it.

The guys who do weddings have my utmost respect. That once in a lifetime shot for the bride and groom has to be perfect, and it has to be a most difficult situation, especially when the bride, the groom and all of the involved families want a say as to how it should be shot and what should be shot. I've edited a couple of weddings, but I didn't shoot the footage - others did.
Matt Houser wrote on 12/11/2008, 12:50 PM
"Hooked up a flashdrive recorder to the in house PA"

What recorder do you use?

...Matt
plasmavideo wrote on 12/11/2008, 2:33 PM
Actually Matt - I kinda misnamed the device. It was an older MP3 player that had an encode line input. As this was voice only, I didn't need great quality, although this little Samsung does pretty good with music as well.

Too bad the newer players don't seem to have this feature anymore.

i want to look around for an actual flashdrive recorder with decent preamps and other features at some point. but that's down the list of priorities right now.

Tom
smashguy37 wrote on 12/11/2008, 4:52 PM
I've filmed roughly 50 15 hour wedding shoots and I've had some nightmares. Having two videographers though is an absolute life saver though. My favourite are outdoor ceremonies because there is more space to move around and everyone is generally more lax. Old, big dark cathedrals are the worst to film in. I've had a lot of ceremonies where the bride and groom turn to face each other for their vows and all the sudden someone steps in the way, usually being someone in the wedding part, mostly best men and maids of honour.

The worst things I've had happen to me was filming a comedy show in a theatre and not hitting record after intermission. One of those moments you swear that you hit record, but you're either imagining things or just didn't press it right. Fortunately, it was the first of two identical shows and there was another camera running. Other than myself, my boss hired somebody really inexperienced for the job back in the spring and he didn't press record during most of the important speeches and the first dances at a wedding...and he was unfortunately doing the speaker shot and not the bride and groom reaction shot.
ushere wrote on 12/11/2008, 6:02 PM
all i want for xmas is a taser.

enough said.

leslie