Recording with audio effects?

Emagine wrote on 10/16/2003, 3:58 AM
Hey all,

This may sound like a simple/stupid question. I want to be able to add, for example, reverb on a vocal track Im about to record. Yet, before I actually record and while I record, I want to hear what the reverb sounds like in my headphones. If anyone can help me out with this topic I would greatley appericate it..

Thanks
Jeff

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cuartodeluna wrote on 10/17/2003, 12:34 PM
Although this is possible, it´s going to add an awful delay if you want to do all within software.

If you have this kind of request that possibly means that you come from the hardware mixing consoles and recorders arena. If you want to work only with computer software, in the current state of technology, then you´re trapped, I mean, you´ll have to start thinking differently.

But, if you want to stay comfortably and work the way you´re used to, it would be great for you to consider some of the dsp cards out there in the market; specially the ones from Cre@mware.

This particular plattform let you not only hear your effects in realtime BEFORE recording, but WITHOUT recording, just the hardware way (depending on the particular routing you´re using), or use, say, a compressor BEFORE the actual recording, and RECORDING it. Plus, you're going to have A LOT of fine effects, soft synths, mixers that don't load up your computer, so you´re going to have the ability to even do a whole mix in REAL TIME, just like with a super-charged Pro-Tools HD III; just thousands of dollars cheaper.

And more flexible.

I found out that Vegas 4.0 and the SCOPE (from Cre@mware) work together just fine. More than that, it's FUN!

Add an A16 Ultra, also from Cre@mware and you´ll have a monster setup that will make you forget about the old patchbays and will keep your current knowledge up to date enough to keep on working the way YOU like.

Goto http://www.creamware.com , and have fun!


PD- No, I don't work for Cre@mware. Just a happy user. :)
pwppch wrote on 10/17/2003, 3:59 PM
>>Although this is possible, it´s going to add an awful delay if you want to do all within software.
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This is not true, depending on what you define as a "awful delay". Many do this all the time with out fancy hardware like the Creamware. Some will say that "any latency is unacceptable". This is subjective and I wont argue what is acceptable. Many have done outstanding work using completely software based DSP processing/monitoring of input signals.
Emagine wrote on 10/19/2003, 10:06 PM
Ok guys, all of this is great. Yet, how do I actually perform this task? I'm using the Presonus Firestation (which uses ASIO drivers). Thanks for the advice in advance..

Jeff
bgc wrote on 10/19/2003, 10:14 PM
read the Vegas help topic on "monitor input" or "input monitor" don't know which. it has a quick tutorial that's quick straight forward.
vegas (as all sf:sony) products have awesome help in all the apps.
lots of questions posted here are easily answered by starting there.
B.
planders wrote on 10/20/2003, 12:27 PM
1. Insert audio track
2. Select input source for track (right-click on track header)
3. Add desired plugins to track FX chainer
4. Arm track for record; it should start monitoring automatically, so you can tweak the plugin chainer.
5. When ready to record for real, click the record button on the transport toolbar.

I've done this many times with my Echo Layla ASIO drivers, with a 64-sample buffer size (more than adequate with a speedy processor and hard disk). Latency is essentially unnoticeable. And, in the end, you have a "dry" recording rather than a pre-processed one, allowing further changes to the FX setup.
Emagine wrote on 10/20/2003, 1:22 PM
Thanks for all the help guys/gals..

Jeff
Geoff_Wood wrote on 10/20/2003, 6:29 PM
Emagine said "Ok guys, all of this is great. Yet, how do I actually perform this task? I'm using the Presonus Firestation (which uses ASIO drivers). Thanks for the advice in advance.."

Do you have a particular reason that you want to do this for ? The concept sounds to me like pure folly - it is usual to add reverb *after* recording dry, where it can be changed or removed.

If all you want it to hear some reverb on heaphones while recording, then you can use Input Monitoring with a reverb in the chain, then actually apply the reverb afterwards.

geoff