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Spot|DSE wrote on 1/27/2005, 9:15 PM
I guess I'm not understanding what you're trying to do? You just want a strip of media that looks like tape running across the bottom?
Grazie wrote on 1/27/2005, 9:49 PM
"How can I run a layer across the bottom or along the side and make it look like it is running on a piece of video tape? "

Video tape is kinda bland and brown or grey. Do you mean film stock? Do you mean seeing the film stock WITH the frames HAVING moving images in them? Do you want a Video Event to traverse the lower section of your main video?

"I've seen this done before on some shows but I have not got a clue. " . . well then I guess I've seen it too!

Have you a weblink that we all can go to and get an idea to it? - Look, most probably, IMHO, if it is already done somewhere, VEGAS will be able to do it in some way or another. The real problem I'm having is "visualizing" exactly or at least near to, what you have in mind . . .

I'm listening . ..

Grazie :)
glk7243 wrote on 1/27/2005, 10:09 PM
Yes I guess film stock is the correct terminolgy. Holes on each side with frames and video running in each frame. I have seen it on some show openings on the outdoor channel. They run it across the bottom or along the side. Sorry for the poor description.
Thanks
Gary
Peeks wrote on 1/27/2005, 11:25 PM
I guess what you can do is have that filmstrip as a picture (gif) and set it with the push up transition (or depends on where you want to situate it). Just make sure that you set the view of the picture wherein it will seem that its one whole filmstrip. Have the holes transparent so you can pop in the videos you want to show then keep them in motion as your filmstrip gif.. Hope this helps!

Goodluck! Cheers,Ü -Ana-
Grazie wrote on 1/28/2005, 12:20 AM
Excellent Gary! I understand now . . . not a problem.

Ok .. . Now do you want say 30 different videos to appear in say 30 progressive frames - and for the same "film strip" to traverse along the screen? This is very do-able and is SCREAMING out for Bezier curves "cutouts". I guess you would also need to employ Track Motion to keep this gliding say from Right to Left. You would also employ Parent Motion to motion ALL the "child tracks".

However, this is far too complex a matter to write down here . .. It would most likely take a "good" editor sometime to produce? So what chance have I got on this message board to explain it? Hah!.

But yes, this is very VERY do-able - would take you time, but it would be a great project to start learning the ropes.

Well people, wanna chip in here and assist. .. I gotta earn some dough now . .

I'll pop back as I need some "head-space" today and take note .. yeah?

Grazie


.. very nice project . . bet it's got Spot thinking too!
farss wrote on 1/28/2005, 12:59 AM
Hm,
I'm not saying it isn't doable in Vegas, it certainly is, IF you've got a LOT of patience! First you've got to create the flim strip outside of Vegas and then composite each video into a frame and get it all to track.
Now I'd guess with something like AE that has motion tracking it'd be a cakewalk, well no, OK a fair bit of work to setup but once you had it done you could easily change things like how fast the film ran past without having to redo most of the work you'd already done.
I guess this is the great thing about Vegas, you can do almost anything apart from complex 3D composites and even those you can fudge mostly. Problem I see is if you're charging commercial rates for your time you'd almost pay for AE in the time it'd take to set this up in Vegas.
Bob.
MUTTLEY wrote on 1/28/2005, 2:14 AM

Alright, just thinking out loud but really and more to give you something to think about than to give a direct answer ( cuz I'm not sure and hafta go to bed ):

Make the actual filmstrip in Photoshop, longer than wide so you can scroll it with track motion. Cut out three segments. Than in Vegas just do five or ten seconds or so of the filmstrip moving/flickering and the holes moving ( however long you want them to last ). Render that as " Uncompressed " so it will keep the "frames" of the filmstrip transparent. Bring it into a new deal. Right click on the vid, choose " Loop ", than go to the " Media " tab and change the " Alpha Channel " to " Straight ( unmatted ). With some tweaking you should be able to pull it out and have three three frames looping as if its constant.

Than do three separate layers below it to put your vid clips on. Would take a little tweaking and trial and error but I think its doable.

Of course this is just theory, I'm not the one who has to do it ! But thinking about it this is what I would try.

( and another example of why I would love the next Vegas to have MOTION TRACKING ! )

- Ray

www.undergroundplanet.com
Grazie wrote on 1/28/2005, 4:26 AM
In think you are on the money Kelly . .on the money! - G
JJKizak wrote on 1/28/2005, 5:48 AM
I think Video Factory already has that in it, but there is nothing in the moving film holes. Well , not sure it's Video Factory, could be Magix or Ulead.

JJK
glk7243 wrote on 1/28/2005, 8:57 AM
Ok that stuff is all way beyond me. Thanks for all the help.
Gary
RichMacDonald wrote on 1/28/2005, 9:14 AM
If you need a starting point for the film strip image, go to this site, download the Vegas project zip file, and extract the film-strip.png image.
epirb wrote on 1/28/2005, 4:46 PM
This is one Spot helped me out with, I'm looking for the veg now, If you want it I could send it to you, (thats assuming I can find the darn thing)
filmstrip thingy