Region playlist?

JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/24/2003, 7:10 AM
Something just struck me.

In Sound Forge, we have the functionality to create a playlist from regions and markers. I just realized it would be perfect to have a similar feature in Vegas.

I do a lot of voiceover recordings, which means that I name my track SCENE002_ACTOR004_LINE_0001, arm it and record a few takes. I then create a new track, move to the end of the project and go on with the next line.

After finishing the recording, I start playing through my project and create regions of interesting takes, naming them "good", "alternate" and so on. Finally, I run my export script and browse the exported regions in Total Commander, switching back and forth to decide which take was best. I then go back into the Vegas project and remove all regions I decided NOT to go for, then export again.

Now, if I had the opportunity to hit "play" on the regions inside Vegas, OR at least set the selection from the Edit Details window, I could do all the sorting directly in Vegas instead of exporting, sorting and then manually editing the Vegas project accordingly. I find it VERY hard to believe this feature is difficult to implement, and I sincerely hope it is a feature I'm not alone in needing.

Thanks for reading this.

Comments

NiggaPhil wrote on 6/24/2003, 8:37 AM
YES I need this fonction too !

I always have to mixdown my projects from vegas, load them in soudnforge and cut them in tracks...

Please, implement the same fonction in Vegas 4.0d !!
pwppch wrote on 6/24/2003, 11:48 AM
Sorry, not for 4.0d, but it something we will discuss for a future version of Vegas.

A the very least the ability to script this type of functionality would be very useful. (Some of it may even be doable today with a script, but I will have to check.)

Peter
JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/24/2003, 11:54 AM
Dang. Well, a script would be enough, I think. I'll head over to the scripting forum.
pwppch wrote on 6/24/2003, 11:54 AM
>> I find it VERY hard to believe this feature is difficult to implement, and I sincerely hope it is a feature I'm not alone in needing.
<<
Why do you find it hard to believe?
JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/24/2003, 12:10 PM
>> Why do you find it hard to believe?
>> The technical ramifications of what seems like simple thing are HUGE.

Sorry about that, guess I fell into the good old "simple on screen, simple in code" trap. Won't be happening again, officer =) I'm a bit curious about the complications involved, though.

BTW, I stopped by the scripting forum, and they said the biggest problem would be that a script cannot start or stop playback. Sounds like a good place to start =)
pwppch wrote on 6/24/2003, 2:53 PM
>>Sorry about that, guess I fell into the good old "simple on screen, simple in code" trap. Won't be happening again, officer =) I'm a bit curious about the complications involved, though
<<
Nothing to be sorry about<g>. The realization is always harder than the concept.
JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/24/2003, 6:29 PM
No, wait. I think I might need to explain myself here.

The term "playlist" was a bit unfortunate: All I want is to jump directly to a region of my choice, turn it into a selection and play it, just as if I'd double-clicked between the region's borders. I don't want to play them in sequence. Sorry, I shouldn't have used the Sound Forge reference.

The usefulness is that I can instantly hear what the region called "scene24_oldman_001_OK" sounds like, and compare it to "scene24_oldman_001_OK-too". Right now, the tediousness of checking the start time of the region and scrolling to it in the track view is overwhelming.
NiggaPhil wrote on 6/25/2003, 8:47 AM
>>What NiggaPhil wants to do doesn't make a lot of sense to me : a long format project that needs to be broken down into regions for what purpose? CD burning? Rendering? Mastering? Not sure.<<

I explain: I have a concert next wedneday and I made a big mix with all songs... Now I have to train about this concert, and it easylier to have many tracks for each song (3-4mn), instead of just one track of "1h22mn" ! If I want to select a song in the middle, how can I do ?!!

So I need to render my project in many tracks to BURN my cd...
Does it make sense to you now ?

JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/25/2003, 9:16 AM
Isn't there a function to insert CD tracks in Vegas? I think you press "N" or something...
drbam wrote on 6/25/2003, 10:18 AM
>>Isn't there a function to insert CD tracks in Vegas? I think you press "N" or something... <<

Yes, in Vegas 3 & 4.

drbam
NiggaPhil wrote on 6/25/2003, 10:19 AM
Yes but I don't want to burn with Vegas because it burns and render at the same time....

I prefer to render my project, and burn it in NERO.
Chienworks wrote on 6/25/2003, 1:05 PM
Ah-ha! Now we may be getting somewhere. :)

Are you having troubles burning with Vegas while it renders? Is it causing some sort of problems? There is a checkbox in the Burn Disc-at-Once Audio CD dialog to Render temporary image before burning. This does a render first, then burns the disc after rendering is complete. Would this take care of the problem?
pwppch wrote on 6/25/2003, 3:50 PM
Perhaps you could convince Nero to support reading the markers we drop into the rendered wave file. Then you could just load the single long wave file into Nero and the track breaks would be included.

Peter
pwppch wrote on 6/25/2003, 3:52 PM
So, you want to slice up a single long track as a set of 'CD tracks".

I assume that you know you can already do this in Vegas and burn right to the CD DAO.

What you want is to render each "CD Track" as a seperate file automatically.


Peter
JohanAlthoff wrote on 6/25/2003, 3:54 PM
Uhm, I might have missed something here, but...

Grab the Batch Renderer from the scripts forum, insert a few regions and run the Renderer. Problem solved?
CDM wrote on 6/26/2003, 8:35 AM
yup. That script works great
NiggaPhil wrote on 6/26/2003, 9:38 AM
"SonicPCH": To convince Nero to suport vegas markers or regions, is a good idea... Yes, I want to render my CD tracks as separate files...

"Chienworks": I didn't know there was a chexkbox for render temporary... But could I burn the temporary file with Nero ?

"JohanAlthoff": I'm going to try this batch renderer... Thanx
Chienworks wrote on 6/26/2003, 11:09 AM
I have no idea if you could burn the temporary file with Nero or not. However, why would you want to? What's wrong with burning from Vegas?