Removable Drives Pros Cons

Dan Sherman wrote on 9/29/2005, 7:59 PM
Curious to know what method of media management and archiving is most popular among members of this forum.
Have been trying removable HDs here.
Have one on board,---and a couple I can swap from a drawer in the machine.
But have run into a problem.
Pulled one drive out and replaced it with another already formatted HD.
Machine doesn't recognize newly inserted drive as "G" drive.
Insisits it is "F"
And now to make matters worse, when I re-insterted original removable drive,---it swapped directorries with an on board drive.
Oh yes it did!
An no I don't know how.
Maybe one huge external drive is the way to go?

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Chanimal wrote on 9/29/2005, 8:25 PM
In answer to the first question. I have five internal hard drives (200 - 250 each). Plus, I have a harddrive that I put in a trey system (cost about $20 for the tray case and $12 for each additional tray). The tray case hooks into a 5 1/4 bay like a DVD. The IDE cable hooks into the back. I then place a HD in the tray (snaps in easily). I have 8 harddrives in 8 separate trays that I can swap in and out.

My swappable hard drives all happen to be IDE (since they are so cheap). If I choose to use SATA and one of my SATA cables I could hot swap the drives.

I also have one 300 gig external Seagate drive that uses either USB2 or Firewire (I use firewire). I discipline myself not to use it for video storage (always tempted. Instead, I turn it on once a week so my automatic backup software can backup all my critical files.

Now, regarding the drives changing letters, go into CONTROL PANEL, ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS. Select COMPUTER MANAGEMENT and then select DISK MANAGEMENT (under Storage). Right click on each drive and select CHANGE DRIVE LETTER AND PATHS. Once you change the drive letters here, they should stay.

Hope that helps.

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daharvey wrote on 9/29/2005, 10:02 PM
Seagate's external drives 300GB, 400GB works excellent for me. Easy to switch to another PC. They appear to be just as fast as my internal drives. I capture video to them directly.
Jay_Mitchell wrote on 9/30/2005, 2:38 AM
I use alot of external hard drive storage enclosures and hard drives and have run into the same problem with the drive letters on occasion. Here is how to fix it:

1. Insert the drive with the letter problem
2. Right Click "My Computer"
3. Click "Manage"
4 Click "Storage"
5. Click "Disk Management"
6. Right Click the Drive with the "Letter Problem"
7. Choose "Rename" and assign the drive a new letter

The drive will now be recognized properly with the new letter.

Hope this helps!

Jay Mitchell
SCVUG
dmakogon wrote on 9/30/2005, 5:26 AM
Just to add a drop more detail: If, for some reason, the drive letter you want is already being used by another drive, you need to change the other drive's letter to something else first (otherwise you won't be allowed to reuse the existing drive letter). And before you do THAT: just make sure there's no software running that's utilizing any of the drive letters you're changing.
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 6:50 AM
Very helpful.
I'll try that process and see if I can un-confuse the situation.
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 7:36 AM
Jay,---followed those instructions.
Thanks very much.
Works to a point.
But when we get to "Change Drive Letter and Paths" and I try to change "E" to "F" and vise versa,---the letters are already taken.
Maybe the problem is the way I'm using to rename.
Couldn't fine "Rename" as specifed in your instructions, so using "Change Drive Letter and Paths"
Oh,---and I hit "mark partition as active on the "F" (removable) drive by mistake. It's greyed out,---can I reverse?



dmakogon wrote on 9/30/2005, 8:22 AM
Sherman,

See my note above. If you're trying to swap E and F, you need to do something like:
Change F to, say, X
Change E to F
Change X to E

(just like trying to swap two programming variables)
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 8:39 AM
I get it.
Sort of like a shell game.
I'll give it awhirl.
And thanks.
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:26 AM
Changed internal drive "F" to "X" successfully.
But when I attempt to change letter on "E" drive to "F" window pops up telling me "This volume contains a pagefile.
dmakogon wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:43 AM
Well... first: are you sure you want to move drive E? I just used E and F in my example, but I thought your setup was more like swapping F and G. (move G to X, move F to G, move X to F). That being said...

if there's a pagefile on E, chances are that E has been E for a long time (maybe even when you set up the OS), and that Windows has happily set up a pagefile there. If this is your "system" drive (in other words, Windows is located in E:\Windows), you don't want to really mess with E. At all.

However, if E really is just some data storage drive, and you want to rename it, first get rid of the paging file. WARNING: MAKE SURE THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO!

- right click My Computer and choose Properties...
- go to the Advanced tab. In the Performance box, click Settings
- You'll see a Performance Options dialog box. Click the Advanced tab.
- In the Virtual Memory box, click Change
- You'll see a Virtual Memory dialog box. In the drive list, select E: Then select the radio button near the bottom of the dialog box labeled No Paging File. (NOTE: I don't believe it will let you remove E's paging file if it is the ONLY paging file. I could be wrong, but I don't feel like tossing my paging file to find out).
Then click a bunch of OK's and you'll probably need to reboot.

Again, it's not clear to me you really want to be renaming E. Based on your original note, you mentioned F and G (that'll teach me to write better examples!).

David
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 11:42 AM
David,
You've been such a great help here.
But at the risk of stretching your patience,----

Yes, "E" , the real "E" is not OS drive,---that's "C".
So I've got "E" assigned to the real "E" drive and "F" assigned the real "F" drive,---the removable hard drive.
Whick brings us to "G".
Now I have been using "G" a 250 GB drive as a back up for OS stuff.
Now it is time to put it to work.
So,---I need to erase that drive.
And reformat, if that's the right term, it as "G" drive so machine recognises it as such.

dmakogon wrote on 9/30/2005, 12:19 PM
Just curious: through drive-letter juggling, did you get E and F back to how you want them? And are you now just left with a G drive that needs stay a G drive but with reformatting?

If all you want to do at this point is add that drive to your pool of video-storage / work drives, and keep it as G, there's really nothing to do but delete everything on the drive, right? If on the other hand, you want to really baptize this guy, you'll need to reformat (and then you get to assign a drive letter to it, whether it's G or any other available drive letter). Reformatting gives you the chance of, say, switching to NTFS (and it's better to do so at format time vs. conversion, due to some fragmentation of some unerlying disk structures).

If 've got this wrong, you should probably send me your complete list of drives (from Disk Manager), along with which ones you want to swap, etc. We can then work this out.

Dan Sherman wrote on 9/30/2005, 1:03 PM
David,

This is how it reads from Disc anagement.
Also have swappable (F) drive that's about full

Vol Layout Type File System Status Capacity Free %free

(C ) Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (System) 74.52 63.78 85%
(G) Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (Active) 186.31 152.79 82%
New Volume(E) Simple Dynamic NTFS Healthy 223.58 23.95 10%

All say "NO" for fault tolerance.
Quryous wrote on 9/30/2005, 4:52 PM
I have tried removable IDE trays that insert into a drive bay in the case, a USB2, and an IEEE1394 external drive case, all using the same HD moved from one to the other.

I then used a Hitachi speed test program to rate the read and write speeds of the various setups:

IDE Removable trays, a rating of 48
1394, a rating of 29
USB2, a rating of 26.

I'm sticking with the removable ide trays.
dmakogon wrote on 10/1/2005, 6:38 AM
Sherman -

Check your email.
farss wrote on 10/1/2005, 7:05 AM
That's pretty much what I'm seeing down here, nothing beats having the drive plugged straight in. It's faster, safer and takes up less desk space. I just feel sorry for G5 owners who don't get that sort of option.
Bob.