Removing portion of a track (audio only) and replace with another

JakeHannam wrote on 7/20/2003, 7:19 PM
I am new to Vegas and can't really find what I am looking for. I want to remove just a portion of the audio from a track (recorded with video camera) and then replace it with audio that was professionally recorded to CD. I have lined up the two audio tracks so they match the video.

How do I cut just a portion out? I need to keep part of the camera audio at the beginning and end because the CD recorded just the music (excluded audience chatter and applause afterward).

Thanks.

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GaryKleiner wrote on 7/20/2003, 7:33 PM
Turn on Ignore Event Grouping tool (on the toolbar - looks like an opened lock), then select the audio event and drag a region that starts and ends where you want to cut out. Hit S to split on the in and out points. Delete that section.

Gary Kleiner
JakeHannam wrote on 7/20/2003, 8:12 PM
Thanks, Gary. Split was the key.

I have another problem, though. Even with snapping on and the tracks maximized, it is hard 1) to find the exact beginning of a clip or the end and 2) dragging a region. When I try to drag, I keep on moving the clip itself.

What am I doing wrong?
GaryKleiner wrote on 7/20/2003, 8:26 PM
The exact beginning or end of the clip is easy to target by hovering the cursor near the edge until it turns into the trim tool. Click and the cursor will be right on the edge.

Drag region from anywhere there is NOT an event, including below the bottom track or up in the ruler area.

Gary
JakeHannam wrote on 7/20/2003, 8:48 PM
Thanks, Gary. Easy as pie (I think). Is the Trim tool icon the one that looks like an arc of a circle? I use the square edge to line up with where I want the split to be, right?

Sorry for being such a ditz but I am used to Premiere and this is a totally different interface for me.

Never mind. I think I found it (the one with the open box and an arrow pointing left if at the end and right if at the beginning. Is that correct?
XPUser2003 wrote on 7/20/2003, 9:40 PM
Jake,

GK's tip is a good one. You just need to get familiar with Vegas to get it to do what you want. Since you seem to have a hard time editing the audio track in question, why don't you just lower the volume of that portion of audio and keep the rest of the audio track on it's default volume? This way, you can adjust to your heart's content where the volume change would start and end without getting bogged down on event trimming and snapping. This is very easy to do in Vegas. Here's how:

1. Make sure the "camera audio" is on different track from the "CD audio"
2. Click the Track number of the camera audio to make it active.
3. On this track number, right click.
4. On the context menu, select insert/remove envelope; click volume. You'll see a horizontal line going through the camera audio track.
5. Double click anywhere on the line to make a control point. Do this on several places along the line. Drag the resulting points up or down. Solo the track and play it (click ! on the track header then press shift+space bar). You will notice that you can control the volume by repositioning the points.
6. Return the points to default position by double clicking them.
7. Apply this exercise to the portion in the camera audio track where you want the volume to fade to zero (or whatever dB level you wish) and resume to default dB where you want it to resume.
8. Notice that you can click and drag the points anywhere on the track. You can delete any point by right-clicking it and "delete" from the context menu.

Hope this helps. Do read the manual. Good luck!

XPUser2003
JakeHannam wrote on 7/20/2003, 9:47 PM
Thanks, XPUser. I will try that. What you are describing sounds very much like the 'rubberbands' in Premiere where you simply click at a point (add a control point) and can adjust to your heart's content.

I downloaded my copy of Vegas so I don't have a manual. I DID download the PDF version but I have a hard time finding anything in there. I have to make sure I have enough paper on hand to print all 314 pages!

I really wish SOFO would have included a printed manual -- I would be willing to pay a few bucks more just to have it.

Anyway, thanks for the tips.
XPUser2003 wrote on 7/20/2003, 10:13 PM
You're Welcome.
BillyBoy wrote on 7/21/2003, 12:16 AM
Another thing you can try is just mute the old audio track. Right click on event in timeline, under switches. The waveform will still be there so you can match wave patterns.

Have you tried zooming in? Click on the track, give your keyboard up arrow a few clicks. Use alone or in combination with expaning the track. This way you can zoom WAY IN when necessary. You can also use the scruber control to speed up or slow down playback.