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Spot|DSE wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:31 PM
Vegas recompresses the footage without regard to whether it's been processed or not. Would be great if we had smart recompression for MPEG 2.
epirb wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:37 PM
so let me ask you this Spot since this is for you.
I am basicly just trying to cut out some of the junk in my Alaska footage B4 I send it to you. Since I dont have a deck to copy tape to tape.I thought I would just take the orig files and truncate them, then burn then to disc. Is it going to affect the original quality of the footage?
Should I do some thing different.
I am trying to get as much of the clips as possible be it good footage or stuff that could use some tweaking in post(I have no doubt you make my stuff look 10x better than how I shot it.
But I wanted to put the m2t's on a couple of DVD's and send to you in a couple of weeks. Got 3 tapes to log.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:41 PM
Were it me:
1. Capture
2. Select regions
3. Convert to Cineform
4. Mail :-)

However, if you render the m2t via BEST to m2t for back to tape print, there is very little hit on the quality, or so I've noticed.
Looking forward to seeing it!
epirb wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:45 PM
Got The cineforms already ... I though maybe you'd prefer the orig m2t's. But Ill send you copies of the CFDI's via mail.
will get a batch out soon as I get back from Chi town.
I'll drop you another snail..
rmack350 wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:50 PM
I'm wondering. If you are logging clips can't you just capture the parts you need rather than capturing everthing and trying to reduce the m2t files? Is there something about the format that prevents this?

I realize it's a moot point if you can just convert the regions you want to cineform.

Just curious. I've not touched HDV footage but it sounds like one needs to learn a bit of finesse to work efficienly with it.

Rob Mack
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/15/2006, 12:53 PM
You can;
1. Buy the CineForm capture tool and convert on the fly (entire tape) You also get scene detection that works 99% of the time using their tool.
2. Buy the CineForm capture tool and convert clips only
3. Use the Vegas tool and manually use Batch Render to convert regions or clips to CineForm (free method)
4. Buy GearShift and convert regions to Cineform and/or DV Proxies and/or 4:2:2 YUV (For Decklink users only)
5. Do the S&M thing and edit m2t files on the timeline, risking color correction issues and a few other potential landmines.

Not much to learn, just a workflow change from what we're used to working with in a very mature DV workflow environment.
Laurence wrote on 1/15/2006, 3:50 PM
Or you can just cut the m2t clips with MPEG VCR from Womble.com. Its not that expensive and it will crop your files without rerendering them. I do it all the time.
johnmeyer wrote on 1/15/2006, 5:08 PM
How many different reasons does Sony need in order to convince them to include simple, lossless MPEG editing?

1. Trim and cut the errors from a rendered MPEG-2 file prior to authoring, thus avoiding time-consuming re-render.

2. Re-use content already put on a DVD without having to recapture and re-render archive tapes.

3. Cut excess from captured m2t files prior to Cineform conversion in order to reduce storage required and reduce time needed to create intermediates.

And, if Sony really got into it, they could also include the ability to join MPEG-2 files which would let you create projects in small chunks; render those chunks to individual MPEG-2 files, combine those files into one MPEG-2, and then import that single MPEG-2 into DVDA. You can, of course, combine these into one VOB within DVDA using he Music Compilation feature, but 99% of DVDA users don't know about this, and even if you do, you cannot add chapter stops within a music compilation.

But, as usual, I digress ...