Render settings for HD DLNA use

jbrawn wrote on 1/16/2009, 11:20 AM
My new toy is a Samsung 8 series LCD TV. It has a DLNA feature that allows it to read music, picture and video files from a PC running DLNA server software.

I am having trouble finding render setting in Vegas that produces a 1080 HD file that can be displayed by the TV.

According to Samsung, my choices are:

File ext, Video Decoder, Resolution, Audio Codec

.avi, H.264 MP, 1920x1080, AC3

mp4, H.264 BP, 1920x1080, AAC

mp4, H.264 MP, 1920x1080, PCM

mp4, H.264 MP, 1920x1080, AAC

mpg, MPEG2, 1920x1080, AC3

Has anyone successfully rendered a 1080 project and been able to display it over a network from a PC to a Samsung 7, 8 or 9 series LCD TV?

Any advice is welcome!

Thanks,

John.

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jbrawn wrote on 1/19/2009, 12:57 PM
After a weekend of playing I found one format that works:

Start with "Blu-ray 1920x1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream" template.
Use Video VBR with 30M max, 25M average and 20M minimum (Main Concept MPEG-2).
Include Audio Stream, Stereo Mode, 224Kbps, 48,000Hz.
Uncheck "Save as seperate elementary streams" on the "System" tab.
After the render, rename the file to .mpg

This seems somewhat wasteful on disk space as the source material I'm using is primarily AVCHD at 1440x1080, but it works!

If I can find result that works with an mp4 format, I'll post that.

-- Can anyone relate "H.264 BP" and "H.265 MP" to the choices we see in the Sony AVC(*.mp4, *.m2ts, *.avc) codec?

Thanks,

John.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/19/2009, 3:06 PM
> After a weekend of playing I found one format that works:

So you bought a new piece of equipment that is DLNA compliant and it took an entire weekend just to get anything to work? I feel your pain! I have a bunch of DLNA equipment that won't talk to each other too. DLNA is a joke. It sounds like it's the solution but it's part of the problem. Another standard that is not standard at all. (hang on while I get down off this soap box) ;-)

> Can anyone relate "H.264 BP" and "H.265 MP" to the choices we see in the Sony AVC(*.mp4, *.m2ts, *.avc) codec?

Sure, MP is Main Profile and BP is Baseline Profile. In the Sony AVC Custom options you select this on the Video tab under Profile. The options that show up here are dictated by the Format on the System tab. Different formats have different profiles. There is also a High profile. Using the wrong profile is one of the big problems with getting these devices to play nice together.

I appreciate you posting back. Maybe I'll try again to get my equipment working. I bought a Buffallo Linkstation that is supposed to be DLNA compliant and the Sony PS3 is supposed to be DLNA compliant but darned if I (or anyone else on the internet apparently) can get the PS3 to read files from the Linkstation. Of course, the two manufacturers just point the finger at each other as the problem.

So I went out and bought a D-Link Media Player that can't read the Linkstation either so I bought a LaCie server which both the PS3 and D-Link Media Player can see but, of course, they both want different video formats so I would have to encode everything multiple times depending on if I want to watch them on my PS3 or D-Link. I just gave up;. Maybe in 10 years the manufacturers will get their act together and understand that "standards" with "wiggle room" and not standards at all. I don't see how any of this is ever going to work since no one can agree on anything. As far as I can tell... the DVD was the last standard the consumer has ever had that worked. (... now how the heck did I wind up on this soap box again? ... but the view is breathtaking from up here) ;-)

Good Luck!

~jr
psg wrote on 1/22/2009, 8:06 AM
Yup DLNA is really frustrating.

I have my videos on the Netgear ReadyNAS NV+ and have successfully streamed them to my Sony PS3 using either the HDV60i template in Vegas for HDV source or NTSC DVD template for standard DV material.

The ReadyNAS shows up as a media server on the PS3 and I can locate content by browsing folders. Interface is just okay

I also use an old Mediagate MG350HD to stream videos as well. It actually is more versatile than the PS3 in terms of formats supported but the interface is cruder and it's slower.
prairiedogpics wrote on 1/22/2009, 8:20 AM
My PS3 will play .m2t files from my Sony HC7 without any modification. This is from disk (data DVD) or when copied to the PS3 HDD. I have not attempted to stream anything from another PC.
jbrawn wrote on 1/22/2009, 8:37 AM
Thanks, JohnnyRoy, for your explanation about the Main and Baseline Profiles. I'll dig into that more and try to get a better understanding of it.

Since my last post I found a Java based application called "PS3 Media Server" and installed version v1.03. It streams nearly all of my files HD and SD files to my PS3. The user interface on both the PC and the PS3 is far superior to the interface on the Samsung PC Share application and the Samsung TV menu.

The only file type that didn't work right out of the box was SD based .AVI. I'll play with that when I get a chance.

John.