Rendering Nested VEG Files STILL Crashes 6.0d

GmElliott wrote on 4/20/2006, 9:24 AM
Ever since I used nested VEG files in my workflow and ran into problems with Vegas crashing during render to MPG2 I've strayed away from using this feature.

Now there have been many builds of 6.0 since then and decided to give it a try on 6.0d. I edited all sections of a project on separate timelines and assembled a master timeline with all the nested VEG files. After rendering out to MPG2 for about 10 minutes it's crashes and brings Vegas down.

Granted these nested VEG files are pretty intense edits- several layers, a generated media "vignette", and color correction. Either way the whole nested VEG ability is useless for me. I wonder how people are able to get it to work properly. I also wonder if it's my projects that are causing the crash (several layers/color correction/ etc).

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kentwolf wrote on 4/20/2006, 10:56 AM
>>I wonder how people are able to get it to work properly.

I know it works fine for me. All day, every day. No issues at all.

Sorry... :)
mdopp wrote on 4/20/2006, 11:09 AM
Doesn't work for me as well. Neither with MPEG2 files, nor with Cineform's HD-avis.
Always crashes.
Martin
rs170a wrote on 4/20/2006, 11:09 AM
All I can suggest is the solution I got from Sony when I was having similar problems a few months back.
I had Render Threads set to 1. Increasing this to 2 (or more) cured my problem. It's a simple adjustment that's worth a try.

Mike

GmElliott wrote on 4/20/2006, 12:46 PM
They are already at 2+. But thanks for the tip regardless.

I'd like Sony to possibly address this issue. I'd like to see this fixed before they pile on more "features" in V7. At least make sure the ones that already exist ..."work".
ForumAdmin wrote on 4/20/2006, 3:20 PM
Can you render each .veg file (what you are nesting into a master project) individually, to the same MPEG-2 settings?
fldave wrote on 4/20/2006, 7:55 PM
I don't have any problems.

How long are your nested vegs?

I have one veg, that has 4 other vegs overlayed on the timeline. It's only about 1 minute long, though

The nested vegs are: one has a static color-corrected background; one is a chromakeyed pumpkin; one is another nested veg containing a heavily altered video of a face to look like the cut outs of a jack-o-lantern, finally on top is a very heavily keyed smoke effect. Color correcting throughout.

Many other nestings I do are 1 hr 20 min two cam shoots. Nesting makes it easy to dice up the segments between cams. I also keep a nested audio veg separate.

Are you sure your PC isn't dirty inside/cooling problem? Sure sounds like it, as these nested vegs really crank the cpu.

Also, are all of your Vegas "temp" drives separated from your C drive? I have an entire Temp drive where my Windows swap is, a Vegas temp folder, etc. I think there is a separate Rendered Files Temp drive in vegas. Keep those separate from your source and target drives.

Just a few thoughts
DCV wrote on 4/21/2006, 7:27 AM
I render nested vegs regularly without crashing, but I frameserve out to CinemaCraft. You might want to try frameserving the master project and see what happens. The only problem I have encountered using nested projects are the infamous 'flash' frames during preview, but that is a another discussion :)

John
Grazie wrote on 4/21/2006, 7:46 AM
FRAMESERVE out Nests!! Now THIS I gotta try out!! - Thank YOU!! - Graze