Rendering question

minna415 wrote on 11/23/2004, 1:44 PM
Please HELP,
I've finished my project that was shot entirely on a Sony handheld mini DV.
I went to render it, set the Render properties for DVD NTSC - set the aspect ratio to 16:9 and put the Interlace Bottom field first on, that it said it would be optimal for T.V. But here's my problem - why does it look the way I want it on my computer screen (film like,grainy, non-digital) but when I burn it to DVD and watch it on my T.V., (which is a HDTV -with a Progressive scan DVD player) it looks like a disaster, Video like, flicker on some still shots, just terrible. I wanna get so desperately what is on my computer screen on to the DVD. I assuming this is a resolution problem and cant be done, but I'm hoping.
So much thanks for any help.

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winrockpost wrote on 11/23/2004, 3:08 PM
Useyour camera as a link to view vegas on your tv, then you will know what you really have.
In vegas help refer to Using an External Video Monitor
minna415 wrote on 11/23/2004, 3:44 PM
Um...isnt quite an answer to my problem. I know what I have, but obviously my computer screen wants to show me how I want my project to look at whatever resolution its playing itself in, but when I take the file and burn it to a DVD and play it on a T.V. set, my project goes from looking like a film (the way I want it) to a soap opera like look. What can I do?
winrockpost wrote on 11/23/2004, 3:46 PM
What you have for computer aint what you have for tv
ScottW wrote on 11/23/2004, 3:58 PM
You didn't tell us how you authored this. If you used DVD Architect, then when you render from Vegas be certain that you select the appropriate DVDA template. You should not need to mess with field order or anything if you have the proper template. The only thing you might want to adjust is the average bit rate (and that's going to depend on how much material you have). Just make sure that you don't have too much material so that DVDA wants to recompress (which is badness - it's much better to get the correct bitrate right when you render from Vegas than to let DVDA recompress).

If you want to see what the project is going to look like without burning and you have DVDA 2.0, you can preview via firewire using your camera as a pass-thru device (if your camera supports this).

--Scott
minna415 wrote on 11/23/2004, 6:58 PM
I am actually using a DVD burning software called ULead, and I dont think its that software because when I play the rendered Vegas file from my hard drive or stick in a DVD which I burned it on, it looks the same on my computer screen, but if I take that same DVD to a regular T.V. set it changes its look entirely, and for Winrock - I know a monitor and a tv are two different sources, I not that new to life, but I dont understand how there can be such a dramatic difference from the two. simple - one source (computer screen) looks like the project is a film - the source (t.v.) looks like a video, so now what am I to do?
johnmeyer wrote on 11/23/2004, 7:06 PM
Use the defaults (other than bitrate settings) when encoding MPEG-2. Do NOT mess with the field order, either in the Render As dialog, the Project Properties, or the Event Properties. Leave them all alone.
minna415 wrote on 11/23/2004, 8:46 PM
I dont touch any of them except for the aspect ratio which I just put to 16:9. thats it.. Let me ask this - should the project have a film (on a T.V. I might add) like look to it if its rendered in the simple DVD NTSC template? Because I would like to have the film like look that has been in my Vegas preview window this whole time I have been editing it, but seems to elude me once the project is put on a disc.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 11/23/2004, 10:42 PM
Unless you applied a "film look" to the video in Vegas - there is no way you will get a film-look on the DVD just by rendering to the DVD NTSC template.

What others here have been trying to suggest is that you try to setup external preview. This is where you can preview your video in Vegas out to your TV via your camcorder. Do you understand what is being suggested here? This is where you connect your Sony camcorder to your TV (via regular video cables) and also to your PC (via Firewire) and then click on the "external preview" Icon that is in your Vegas preview window. Using this approach you can see what it will look like without rendering and burning a DVD.

By doing this you will be able to see more clearly how your project will actually appear when it is finally displayed on a TV.

Also... I am not sure what would happen if you simply render to a 16:9 aspect ratio. Is your project already in 16:9 aspect ratio? From your description of what you have done it seems to me that you may be working from footage that has been captured froma regular mini-DV camcorder in 4:3 mode. Of course I am just guessing here - but your posts are a little confusing (at least for me anyway).

And... it sounds like you are using Ulead for your DVD authoring? So therefore you do not actually have DVDA - which should also mean that you do not have the ability to render to MPEG2 from within Vegas right? In which case how are you rendering to this "DVD NTSC" format. Do you actually mean you are rendering to "DV NTSC" format?