Or anything to making interchange (both ways) with ProFools easier..

And folder tracks.

geoff

Yes...that is I meant. Parent to Child Track Folder" nest into one track. So we could gain more space on the timeline. Yes I know we have nesting. But I'd average over 25 to 30 tracks in every project. I use nesting for complicated effects. I'm actually using 50 tracks per project.

6. Full AVCHD recognition and utilization, without having to use Cineform or other item (in other words, no jumping around for less-than-state-of-the-art computers whose owners can't easily drop the $$$$ to upgrade).
7. Have the Sony folks in Madison talk with the Sony folks who design the cameras/computers/etc. Right now it seems that each group is walking around with hands in their pockets so the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Classic case in point: We invested in an AX-2000 camera. Then we found out we had to invest in Cineform. Then we found out that we had to get an *.ac3 plug-in. Then we found out that the pixel ratio was different. Then the time wouldn't sync accurately between cameras. And we could go on and on ...

PS. We're not techies who inherently know all these things ... what we have learned is from forums like this.

But, getting back to the original subject of this thread, we still believe that Vegas is great, working well and often. We're up to 9.0d, having started way back in the Sonic Foundry days. It's a great tool, and all we're suggesting is refinements.

Of the 7 million things that vegas does I only know about maybe 92 of them.
JJK

I'll second point #5...

I wonder if SCS is thinking about making a compositing program such as After Effects or Motion that interacts well with Vegas? That'd be a major undertaking, but I'm thinking that's one of the steps to having a "complete package" like the other major players. Yes, we can just use AE for what we need, but it sounds like AE integrates well with Premeire to pass data back and forth.

It's just a thought, but it might alleviate some of the "Vegas must do everything" requests they get.

JJ ... 7,000,000 ... ?
that's quite a few... and you know 92 ... that's quite a few as well . . .
I probably know - hold on, I can't type while I'm counting - okay maybe let me take my shoes off too - ahhh ... err ... no more than twenty (I ran out of counters) ... (grin)

Until that time ... Earl J.

"It's just a thought, but it might alleviate some of the "Vegas must do everything" requests they get."

Other compositing choices are too ingrained for Sony to worry about it. Vegas isn't even their own baby. They just bought the thing. Sony will worry about what it does best. Hardware.

Just a thought ..select tracks right click add to new track as a nested veg file . dialog opens , name veg select save folder. Bang done.

"Just a thought ..select tracks right click add to new track as a nested veg file . dialog opens , name veg select save folder. Bang done. "

That's only a very small part of what dedicated compositing apps bring to the table. Adobe aren't being lazy when they effectively tell users "Hey, you want to do complex compositing, bounce it into AE".
To the best of my knowledge there's only one system that combines the functionality of a NLE and compositing and that's Avid's DS system. Base price is over $50K, probably you'd need to spend more like $100K to get a usable system. Might be a good investment if you spent the time to master it and can find enough clients that'll pay $500/hour to drink your coffee.

I agree with the others, it'd be nice if Vegas worked more easily with AE or some other dedicated compositing app. So far though I've not found that much of a hinderance. On the other side of the coin though trying to make Vegas even remotely come close to doing what AE can do would be plain daft. Aside from anything else in the process they'd very likely break it as an NLE. The R&D costs would force a considerable price hike as well and that'd certainly loose them a lot of users.

Bob.

How true. Vegas is good for 98% of the stuff we need to do in our shop, but we keep After Effects available to cover those 2% things that it does best. But I wouldn't try to use After Effects as a non-linear editor any more than I would try to use Vegas to do some serious compositing. They complement one another.

Analogy: You don't use a screwdriver when a sledge hammer will do a better job.

"...Sony will worry about what it does best. Hardware."

Uh, Sony Creative Software doesn't sell hardware. Are you confusing them with another company? Sony Style, for example, which is a separate company from SCS, and they *do* make and sell hardware. But, not software.

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The work stations are not Sony's (or SCS's) and if you look at the vendor list you will not see SCS on it.

SCS does NOT sell hardware.

Sony bought Sonic Foundry's software and walla, you then had SCS. That's the extent of their history in software.

Walla? Perhaps you mean "voilà."

or maybe, walla, walla, bing, bang?

LOL -- or Walla Walla, Washington.

Perhaps you mean "voilà."

Prolly.

"Uh, Sony Creative Software doesn't sell hardware. Are you confusing them with another company? Sony Style, for example, which is a separate company from SCS, and they *do* make and sell hardware. But, not software. "

Sony is Sony Corporation of Japan. Sony Style is not even owned by Sony or at least not the local Sony stores. They're simply retailers.

Sony is a hardware company. Apart from SCS and one other division they sell no software products.

Bob.

Bob, Sony Style is indeed owned by Sony Electronics, Inc.